I like to play solo, have a level 100 Rogue that does well, but I cannot get past Duriel and the Ice dude… I look at all the online builds for Duriel killers and such, they all have the top gear for which I don’t have and cannot get until I defeat these Uber bosses. A proverbial cat chasing its tail… What am I missing here? Is there a group of Aces that can look at your build and point out the deficiencies? But that is what is fun about having so many choices for your build;d but it does show that all the top builds seem to have the same characteristics meaning too many are not worth bothering with. Just would like others thoughts.
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You don’t need a top build to kill Duriel. But you need a decent one with a tiny little bit of sinergy. And most importantly some basic gear.
Even with poor DPS you should be able to beat him.
I am assuming you are struggling with Defense? Did you reach cap on your poison resist? Are you using any defensive aspects? Do you have enough damage reduction on your gear? Enough armor? Are you dodging his attacks? etc.
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As a rogue myself I didn’t have the best gear going after Duriel, but I had maxed poison resist, good armor, and DR. I fought him solo as a TB rogue to begin with. Now the first time solo is a bit rough, especially if you don’t have Tibaults to pump up your combo points. It will take some time, but shouldn’t be horrible. Mostly just have to learn his tactics and dodge a lot. Hit and run tactics.
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My poison resist is maxed and I am a penetrating shot Rogue using both Shadow and poison damage, I went thru potions like crazy so I suspect my defense is light. I do have good armor and life. As mentioned, will have to do a better job of evading its attacks. Thanks for the feedback!
There’s no timer, so the only thing your missing is survivability.
70% poison resist is advised.
If your playing season then pick undying. If you need more then add Ravenous and/or resilience.
Are your glyphs maxed at 21? I always ask this because people tend to skip this part and they make a huge difference
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I started S2 with a Rogue.
My 1st Duri kill was lvl 86 - with a Puncture build.
Puncture also carried my party when everyone kept wiping another time.
It was also Vampire Siphon capable.
No special gear. Just imprinted Rares at the time.
I built around the Vamp Powers and Puncture was crazy fun. Sadly I never took it anywhere esp after they released the Malignant Rings and for Rogue it was Trickery - very sad day and I walked away from building it further.(also to note there’s a bugged interaction with X’fals and Puncture where it rarely procs so there’s that…).
You should have no issues killing and certainly not tanking Duriel.
Get your Armor and DR%'s up.
Your %Damage to/with X sources might not be optimal.
IMO: Shadow Imbue is NOT a good for Single Target, especially tanky ones. For Duriel/Bosses it’s PI all the way.
IMO: Pen Shot is not good for Single Target, especially tanky ones. For Duriel/Bosses - Rapid Fire, Twisting Blades, Flurry.
Finally - if you have materials to Summon Duriel and need/want the gear - join group rotations.
Nope. Play solo. You will at least have a shot at enjoying the game.
Everything in this game can be done solo, including Duriel and IceBeast. Lilith is still the hardest thing to do in this game until you learn the mechanics…but there are videos for that, if you choose to chase that.
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Rogue can get by this season with a couple vamp powers in almost every situation. The combination of undying and resilience makes them one of the tankiest classes for season 2. You still need to avoid attacks and prioritize the other adds that pop up from the holes because their poison attacks hit as hard if not harder than Duriel himself because poison (and dots in general) are broken in this game and seem to ignore resistances. When one bite from a baby spider can make you drink multiple potions to survive while at the armor and resist caps you know something is wrong.
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Killing duriel and sane farming of duriel are different things. My rogue can quite easily kill duriel - but I dont count that as sane farming of it. My BL sorc kills it in a couple of seconds - ie before the fight gets messy - that is sane farming.
Given the number of kills likely needed on average to get the item you are after, I strongly suggest make 2 characters if needed - 1, the class/build they want to play, 2 - the class/build that works the best and is easiest to farm this stuff with, but really only if what you need is not class specific. I really wish I could select what class I want drops for so I could (for eg) use a sorc to farm rogue stuff.
No problem with grinding, but not a fan of wasting time/effort just because blizzard screwed up classes/build yet again.
Sure, better in a decent group, but that depends on your aims - many are happy to be carried some not so.
(As an aside, I do wonder if there is a general problem with many boss mechanics - if you are high damage enough to kill before the boss effects and actions start, then it is trivial of course. Even if you are only a tiny bit slower, then depending on the class build, it can suddenly be a difficult fight if you find yourself having to continuous evade and no time to actually deal much damage - this is a problem if your class has no immunities that allow you to fight while immune - a few seconds may be all you need to get a fast kill - this for me is a huge difference between sorc and rogue - sorc never has to stop doing high damage, but rogue has to stop and evade if it cannot get the fast kill).
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Good point about the Glyphs. I currently have: Ranger 15, Chip 15, Turf 15, Infusion 14, Canny 15 (Not using this currently using Tracker instead) and Tracker 9. Will continue to upgrade them.
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Wino do you have a link to d4armory?
D4armory. io
Good feedback, thank you. I have no vampiric powers at all, did not do much in season two. My basic skill is puncture so good there, will switch out pen shot for other as you mention. For Imbue, what is PI?
Posion Imbuement. It currently over performs and you can get some great damage from it.
I have a load of PI with Tracker Glyph now added to it I am level 12 on PI.
Sounds like you need a good guide: Maxroll.gg
I use it as a starting point but my TB Poison Rogue is slightly different. Once you become comfortable with the build you can change your skills and gear to fit your play style.
PenShot is weaker on single targets. You might consider dropping shadow Imbuement and adding rapid fire for the boss kill
I do not know about D4Armory and, if that is a link you posted, it does not work. Thank you!
Hmm it won’t let me add the link. Oh well nevermind that then
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