Again, just like meta builds and their affixes, blizzard has a death choke hold on certain builds item uniques. LORD ZIR that is supposed to make this easier, but nope it’s just got cheesier to grind for. I’ve gotten 2, one that was level 740 and another which is 785. I’ve done a total of 54 runs on just Lord Zir alone. Let go of this weapon already, or let it drop easier through out the world which is nil now. It’s so dumb how you can seee the same garbage over and over but what you need especially if a build is capable of beating Lilith in the past they have this intentional death grip drop rate on such builds( I’ve never heard of this with any other group)) Don’t play stupid btw I know. Does blizzard know what fun is, or just want everyone to say d4 is blahh game, which is all I hear now again from everyone (good job btw) All Uniques should drop at an equal rate, don’t say it is either because out of those runs I’ve gotten 2 blades and none over 800(all is see is pants, pants, pants, pants, gloves, gloves, pants. I could do this 54 times you get the point!! Is it to hard to ask to get a 900+ and not have to run these stupid events and world boss over and over just to get this exquisite blood 9 times to get 1 chance to see the same uniques drop over and over is insane. I guess they want everyone playing poo builds because if that’s the case sign me up now for barrage or pen shot or furry flurry bury zz. Just stop hustling the ones who want to play the game and use the builds they want would be nice. We can’t help that most builds only have 1 maybe some 2 decent ways to build it, if you could balance correctly they all would be good.
Wait is this a rant about an item? Hold up let me get my popcorn. 
There we go. Ok now please continue. Please go into detail from the top. Show me where Blizzard touched your item and how it’s not fair you have to farm for items that aren’t BiS.
Is that really a wall of text about how a lv 75 “boss” monster won’t drop you a perfect unique?
I mean you aren’t wrong, Unique’s probably should just have a 900 ilvl min, especially a weapon since it’s basically useless otherwise.
if your goal is to become one of those MVP green losers or whatever you’re doing a piss poor job at it
i can’t imagine otherwise why you’re white knighting blizzard every time i come to this place (like every 30 days ro so)
You clearly don’t know me very well. Last thing I want is green text and the inability to make fun of people complaining about things in the game that involve RNG. Now if this was a legitimate concern like they weren’t getting any drops, or the boss disappeared I’d be all for it. But the guy is literally complaining about not getting higher ilvl items to drop from a level 75 boss.
They either don’t know how the game works, or are delusional to think it should work a completely different way.
There’s that phrase again, you have got to be one of the most ignorant people on these forums if you consider what I’m doing in any of my posts to be “white knighting”. Explaining how something works is not White Knighting. Making fun of some one is definitely not White Knighting. Constantly criticizing the game and making fun of questionable design decisions the developers have made is about as far from white knighting that I can think of.
But please do tell how I’m “white knighting” according to your definition of it. I would love to hear this.
someone cam eto vent how after 56 runs or whatever they haven’t even gotten 1 of the itmes they’re looing for, even if it’s crap itemization, and your first reply was typical white knight dismisiveness to their anger and emoiton
Wrong again.
I’ve gotten 2, one that was level 740 and another which is 785. I’ve done a total of 54 runs on just Lord Zir alone.
He’s gotten 2 of the items. His complaint is that they aren’t even above ilevel 800, not that he hasn’t gotten them. It’s a level 75 boss. Pretty much 5 levels above the entry level to get into WT4. It’s going to have crappy ilevel loot.
Now I agree it sucks, but their complaint borders on ignorance of how a game such as an ARPG works. That item will drop outside of doing Zir, but you have the option of doing Zir for a better chance at the item, albeit it will be of lower ilevel. Highly unlikely you’ll ever get a 900+ from Zir though.
It’s a unique item too, not an Uber unique. On my rogue I’ve found one this season in a NM dungeon. I’ve also destroyed a few from Zir. Honestly it’s not that great of a dagger for rogues in general. It’s ok if you literally have nothing better or you’re going for a very odd build that would somehow put the attack speed to use over something better in that slot.
That being said RNG is RNG. Sometimes it’s a cruel mistress that denies you upgrades, and other times it rains down on you. But you never see people posting about the awesome loot they got, only that rng screwed them over.
still no reason to be so mean as to their rant and not show some sympathy
Fair enough, that is your opinion. I obviously don’t have the same opinion, which may seem rude to some I agree. I show sympathy toward people who have legitimate problems with the game. If there’s a bug, a trade gone wrong, horrible lag, etc. I don’t consider working RNG, good or bad, to be a legitimate problem, especially within the context of an ARPG.
That’s not to say I agree with all RNG mind you. I think certain things in the game need to change, but I don’t expect a level 75 boss to drop ilvl 900 gear.
I have some bad news for you, it takes A LOT.
I’ve probably run about 150 times. the best one was an I910 level with almost max affixes. I’ve gotten 4 other daggers (so 5 in total) with some all low rolls and 2 high item level but bad affix rolls.
The last stretch was the worst. Probably 40 straight runs with zero dagger drops.
The only upside to Zir is that the loot is pretty bad for every other class so my friends share their summoning items with me for Zir to enable me to churn the RNG faster.
Lastly, it does seem drop rates have gotten much, much worse since the season started.
PS, why do you even want Asheara’s right now when the devs have implicitly endorsed Tibaults + Condemnation 23 combo point builds?
What level are you?
Meanwhile in other news I got a pretty sweet drop at Duriel last night
I know this is supposed to be RNG I get that, but my point is not really even with the level which would still be nice if you are grinding end game supposely bosses they should be higher tiers. My main issue is you can tell that certain items drop easy where as the meta build stuff just is random few here and there. ALL Uniques should be set up to drop equally and they aren’t. That was the main take from my spill of words I guess. A lot of grind for .3 percent drop rate with low levels. Now if you want all my other bs uniques thats garbage they are all 900+ and I have like 30 of each?
that’s not an opinion that’s a fact, you’re supposed to self-reflect a bit instead of continuing to defent your patrick bateman psycho attitude
It’s how the drop rates of meta gear is a less percent to drop vs other uniques. I know what RNG is, I played these games before you was walking. Yes complaining about drops does seem frugal I get how you would flame me for it, but it’s how blizzard sneaks in their drop rate percentages for certain items and most people are oblivious to this. I’m used to being flamed so it’s nothing new, but I know what i’m talking about regardless of what you believe :). Should I have ranted the way I did about it probably not, but the fact is this dagger has a very low chance rate in the entire game, and they purposely made these dungeon bosses for a better chance to get this gear right? I just don’t get why they did it and continue to have it death gripped and locked away behind a gated you have to do all events and world bosses 9 times just to get a chance anyways.
Yeah, you’re right. You probably shouldn’t continue to defend your “I WrOtE PaRtITiON BeTWeEn Teh LINEs !!1!11”
If you were born before the original Atari 2600 came out you are older then me. Regardless, your particular luck with an item doesn’t mean anything, it doesn’t prove nor disprove the drop rate.
I’ve had no luck finding a decent pair of Penitent Greaves this season. Found plenty last season, and I know a few people who have found 7+ this season. I just personally haven’t had any luck with finding them. Doesn’t mean they are or aren’t super rare though, just means my personal experience finding them is bad this season.
Now last season it took me much longer to level, I ran a lot more NM dungeons and I never even made it to 100. I’d say I got more uniques during that time only because of the amount of time I had to spend farming nothing but NM dungeons.
Of course now I get a unique for every farmable boss fun I do. If I’m lucky I get two, so it evens out to me anyway. I’d say it’s better now because I can target farm more consistently, it’s not great, but better then finding it randomly out in the world.
Now the reason they did this is to give the players something to do at the endgame. It’s not great, but it’s something. I don’t think they wanted to just throw everything at you like D3, or keep everything locked behind horrible RNG like D2 (there are still items the majority of the player base haven’t found). So we get… this, for better or worse until they come out with something better.
Yeah I honestly agree with your point at least after entering T4.
If a Unique drops in WT4, it should min roll ilvl 900. That still gives some variance and it can still low roll the affixes. Uniques are rare enough that it really wouldn’t hinder the game overall.
Agree. Having unique weapons drop in 700s or 800s on WT4 is a waste of time as you cant use them.
man you must be great during break ups, the definition of “can’t let it go”