Did anyone test this? 25% hp loss per second is wild and it’s an issue for a couple of glaring reasons. You essentially lose out on the skeleton priest buff because you need to have a massive amount of corpses to keep up your max warriors to activate the buff. This also means if your mages die you have to spam through all your dead warriors before you can Rez another mage. It’s also just very unfun to play. 5% or maybe even 10 would be reasonable but in its current state I couldn’t stand to use the aspect for more then 10 minutes before I replaced it.
That aspect and the new unique sword are not things I would ever pick if I want to play a minion build. They are both just awful imho, but each to their own.
There are a few threads already on how bad the aspect is and how little of an actual boost in damage it offers. I see it only being maybe good if you are using the explosion of the warriors as a key sauce of your damage. But as for the mages… its a long story but its not a 100%x boost like the aspect suggests due to many other factors.
I tried to inform the devs in the PTR feedback forum that this was an issue. Here’s to hoping that in future seasons they complete this setup with some additional uniques/aspects/skill tree updates, to account for how bad they are in season 8.
Then again, we have quite a few completely useless uniques and aspects now on Necro and have had them for many seasons, so…
Yeah, i tried to use the new 2 handed “minon” sword. I went from killing lord zir in 15 sec with my legendery 2 handed scythe, to 45 sec with the new sword… so its a MASSIVE downgrade, in general.
I actually tried the Aspect of Service and Sacrifice for some time, accompanied by the Aspect of Occult Dominion on an amulet and a Ring of the Sacrilegious Soul with optimum rolls for the unique affix, for some flavor “expendable skeleton army” build. As I regularly lost all my skeletons, probably as I couldn’t bother myself to constantly manually cast Raise Skeleton to resummon them, I ditched the idea again…
Could have made for a fun build together with Howl from Below to really throw masses of dispensable skeletons at enemies
I’m not sure if Damage Reduction or at least Summon Damage Reduction would help in any way to keep them alive longer, but even if so, one would inevitably lose the “on death” explosion effect. The aspect just doesn’t provide an incentive to keep them alive despite the health loss other than the sheer downside of having them to resummon again
Maybe the aspect is just intended for players who actually completely sacrifice their Skeletal Warriors and who use Bone Skeletal Mages, so that the latter survive longer or can even be kept alive indefinitely, but who knows…?!
TL;DR
Tried the new aspect once, didn’t like it, might try again in the future
That new Minion aspect is meant to be used with Skeleton Warriors Sacrificed, there is no other way. Your Mages get a massive offensive and defensive boost
Sorry to do this but you guys are playing Service & Sacrifice wrong. When your warriors die, they enrage your Mages and Golem & give them 20% multi. Your warriors exploding is also supposed to be massive damage. So if that’s not happening you’re doing something wrong. That’s all there really is to it.
Also the new minion sword is very good. It’s no Grandfather but there’s video evidence it can do t89. So if you can’t get up to this point then the problem is not the sword but it’s you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0V5umZ6DQs&pp=ygUMYmxhZGUgb2Ygemly)
My own build is doing ok and it’s insta-screen clearing at t3 with over 100m damage. I have t4 unlocked (thx to CrazyMage) and I’m armor/res capped ready to go on that front. I just need to get to plvl225 to have all the boards setup, and glyphs to 46. That’s when I can setup the next video.
If your warriors are dying you cant keep up with Priest Buff which is 30 [ x ] for Mages and Golem and you cant benefit from Blood Getter Aspect which more damage and healing for all the minions
That’s easy. You build +Skeletal Priest buff duration and get the buff in when all of your warriors are up. I wouldn’t even install Blood Getter’s.
Wuk is copeing hard. Both the sword and the aspect forces you to choose suboptimal options, to play a suboptimal build. Also they are focusing on AotD and not minion damage, so ofc they don’t notice the inconsistency and clunkyness the aspect creates.
I made a generic build just to try it out and the build rips. The issue is survivability. I have low life for some odd reason. It’s a very interesting build. I’m starting to see the appeal in some items that I’d never use. Also picking +1 Skirmisher which is never used in endgame but now that +1 option becomes damage. Btw Blood Getters IS an actual option in my setup.
Why is everything you say to me confrontational and hostile? Are you not capable of intelligently discussing a topic? Or are you telling us that you’re not up to my level? Cause if you’re better than me you’d discuss things wtih me on even ground and prove me wrong (which would never happen) instead of insult after insult.
The build you’re playing rn is because of me anyways lmao
Both the sword and the aspect forces you to choose suboptimal options, to play a suboptimal build
NO ONE CARES! Seriously! NO ONE! We play and build these builds FOR FUN!! We are not trying to hit t150 and NO ONE thinks that it’s going to be their goal when playing these specs. Let go of this incessant nonsense that everything needs to do the most damage or be the best and just PLAY THE GAME!!! Play what you like and max that out. It’s what I’m doing and what other ppl are doing and they’re enjoying the game. Seriously you need to get a grip dude.
Also they are focusing on AotD and not minion damage, so ofc they don’t notice the inconsistency and clunkyness the aspect creates.
What clunkiness would that be? Show us your gameplay. You haven’t shown any of yours. You’re all talk and no action.
You said I didn’t have a build & that I was lying. You were proven wrong.
You said the sword sucked over and over & wouldn’t work. Here I am in t3 running everything over and I just showed a video of t4 from someone else. Proving the build DOES work and you can take it quite far.
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why is it quiet all of a sudden? these trolls are like those small dogs that bark a lot but aren’t dangerous in the least
Long story short, grandfather is just the superior option in the weapon slot.
Is there any proof to back that up…
Sound a little bit odd to me, that a thread on a forum would have such a big impact on the meta.
Still wondering, because there is very little traffic in that thread.
I also played with grandfather in S6. In Kripps builds that had been the BIS weapon befor your thread.
Should be very easy to proof, I will link it later this day.
I can link a YouTube video of me playing with minion grandfather befor your thread. Just hang on.
While your thread is from Jan this year, my video is from last year. Check the link. We were talking about grandfather, you can see everything in the video.
Alright I concede. I’ll just invoke Rob & state that anybody can make these builds cause you just have to look at it
All that said though, quite a bit of the ‘dna’ from my build is in the build that everyone’s playing. No one was doing what I was doing & we can see that. Now, it’s a foregone conclusion to run Cursed Aura, Flesh Eater, and stuff like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ew6Z3kpp7M