LA was great at the start, but horrible grind-fest progressions and relying on 7 other players with “Host-Lobby Systems”, especially most time with random players is painful, full of a toxic culture, and loads of time wasted raids.
I hope Diablo 4 is more like LA gameplay but raid-wise, like “Monster Hunter”. Just drop in and out, whether you clear it or not but still have much fun for the time that was put in.
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Well … for one … Diablo 4 won’t have raids, per se … World Boss, maybe … but 12 people at most, put in an area randomly to fight the WB.
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Yeah, that’s great. I’m just sick of these raid lobbies, but something like random suited “Matchmaking” is far more better experience.
There should be nothing raid-wise.
The bosses we have are fine. I’d love a diablo-style ARPG with Lost Ark level combat though, but I don’t see it happening any time soon.
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I called this within 2 weeks of it coming out. Diablo IV though will not be LA but probably pull ideas from it.
Looks like the main gameplay will be dungeons, world events, and timed world bosses. In the future maybe they’ll add new areas, dungeons, obviously more loot, and maybe a new class.
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I also like “Undecember” and “Path of Exile” Random matchmaking for raids for certain levels. You just matchmake and not do like a host and lobby system.
I tried out Lost Ark and got fed up with all the talking and talking an no fighting at the start of the game. There was a lot of exposition and quest stuff in D4 too but at least there were cool cut scenes. LA is just not for me at all. I don’t have the patience for that sort of thing anymore.
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Lost ark was terrible and no diablo 4 won’t be anything like it.
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Yeah, I myself am a Hardcore LA player for almost a year now, but nothing in that game seems rewarding and it’s just Giga whales you have to compete with, even when you play casually. The game is nowhere near rewarding as Diablo and Progression and using “Alt characters” are a nightmare and toxic inducing scenarios. Don’t even get me started with the community there, sheesh!
I just left that game to completely allocate the time for D4. Hope this will be something greater and especially way more fun and better in the long run!
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What I don’t like about Lost Ark is being time gates for gathering materials for everything. Need Gold? Do some Island on a schedule. Want more honing mats? Go do these specific once a day activites then wait 20 hours to do the same thing again.
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Apart from the camera angle, there’s really no similarities to Lost Ark that I want Diablo 4 to share.
Lost Ark was a F2P lifestyle nightmare. It created the illusion that you were playing a game when you were being tricked into a second life if you wanted to keep up with progression.
Diablo 4 should have a beginning, middle and and end. It shouldn’t be designed to keep you there day after day to progress your gear solely on RNG accelerated by your wallet.
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I enjoyed the campaign but then quit. I hated the p2w and the grind made the game a full time job. That end game was truly a horror.
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Wait they’re just now leaving lost ark?
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Korean (I think) vs US have very different game design philosophies. I do like what they stole from games like Lost Ark though. It seems like they took what makes the game fun from Lost Ark without all the grindy boring stuff and ridiculously intricate raid encounters with it. Pretty excited for D4!
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Considered Lost Ark, but heard too many horror stories of Amazon’s mismanagement of the game to even think of trying.
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There is a renown system that buffs account wide, a mount system we’ve never had in Diablo, similar map layout designs, the Lilith pillar things remind me of collecting mokoko seeds or whatever they’re called, and the world boss on a 15 minute timer just to name a few. All of these things are great.
There are quite a few similarities between the two and it’s done well in Diablo 4, I’m sure I’m missing a lot of them.
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I don’t mind grinds but I can’t stand time gating and especially can’t stand p2w. Lost Ark was so bittersweet for me. Such an amazing game, destroyed by these two aspects. My hope was for Diablo 4 to be Lost Ark but without these problems. So far so good.
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They closed their main forums and ditched the dying EUW and SA servers. Not doing any QOL for new and Long term players alike!
Amazon has very little to do with Lost Ark being a cash grab game. The only thing Amazon did was releasing an older version of the game, supposedly to have a softer release for the west, than the actual version running in Korea and then updated the game to eventually come to the standard version that is running in Korea.
But the game is still the very same. Korea just has a few more classes and is on a higher gear power level, with different raids accommodating those power levels. If Amazon had released the current Korean version of the game, it would still be a heavily time-gated cash grab that calls itself a videogame. Its simply korean, as much as gacha-games.
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They were doing false promises for almost a year now and nothing delivered!