So I recently bolted together the non-Mythic variant (don’t have any yet 
) of the build and it seemed to be as nuts as everyone claimed. I didn’t get the chance to really test its chops i.e IH lvl 7/8 or Pit lvl 101+.
I don’t have all day to play so I’m typically online at peak hours which has been a disaster this season- over 1000ms ping regularly if I attempt an IH or anything that sees a lot of traffic. Was never much of an issue before but Season 5 has been very frustrating! But I digress…
I decided to run a Pit lvl 101 to see what’s what and it performed as expected crushing the dungeon in about 1min 40secs. And then the boss….
Suddenly I was back in Season 4 throwing pillows! After 2 minutes I had managed to chip away about 40% of the boss’s health! This is not an AOE centric build- Lightning Spear does the heavy lifting. My gear, while not God Tier, is not terrible. Can anyone explain why it’s struggling so much with boss damage?
Uniques in my build-
God Slayer
Fists of Fate
Tibaults
Winterglass
Esu’s
Tals
All decently rolled. Legendary items likewise.
I know they made a change to Splintering Energy and the frequency of the FO procs, but is the drop off that severe??
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How was your boss dmg before the hotfix in Pit 101?
Well this is the thing- I don’t know! Didn’t have the time to put it through its paces. Was hoping someone with a similar setup could chime in 
My gut feel is that before and after the hotfix, your build is already struggling against Pit 100 bosses.
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Probably. With everyone saying the build is the destroyer of worlds I was shocked at how much it struggled 
It should take 3-5 seconds to kill pit 101 boss on that build. Sometimes afoot.
Yeah, definitely not the case with me at least! Like I said- obliterates the dungeon but then the boss sits there having a giggle at me 
Id check some build guides and compare your stuff. Might just be one little thing. In D3 you could load up leaderboards and look. I guess you can do that at the gauntlet. Prob using it there too.
Lightnining Spear ist still in the top 3 most powerful builds this Season. If you struggle in Pit 101 you are doing probably something wrong.
Post your complete build with all the stats on your gear or make your current build in D4 Planer and link it.
Can’t really post anything- still at the grindstone! My initial feeling was that it’s a fault with my build but I honestly doubt it- everything needed to make it work is there. Will do a thorough investigation when I get home
I was lucky to clear t8 before patch and after I felt it sucked compared to pre-patch. I could feel it right away that something was off and it took way longer time to kill mobs.
It is nerfed pretty bad to be honest, I think it is still “A” og “S” tier, but it is not face melting anymore. Maybe if you got all the best stats/items with best rolls etc, but I am not gonna play s5 anymore on my sorc. It ruined the fun part for me.
It’s like somebody told me “no, the awesome car you was driving was wrong car, here is the correct car for you” and then you get a crap car and the feeling is never the same again.
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Without ubers? I dont think so. Maybe if MW 12/12 already?
u need to smash buttons like crazy thats the secret, use all ur CDs as soon as posible flame shield, ice armor, teleport, unstable currents more cds u use more ice blades u spam more cool downs u get to spam lighting spear, i also dont use Frozen Obrs instead i also use ice blades for an extra CD, it also works well without any Uber
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Buttons were indeed mashed. Boss just sat there scheduling a doctor’s appointment for my impending carpel tunnel 
Why are you using Fists of Fate btw?
FoF is a great upgrade for the build if well rolled:
- CC builds stagger quickly vs bosses, defense vs mobs
- Huge extra lucky hit chance helps with all procs
- Includes key atk spd and crit chance enablers
- x50% dmg trades off with missing crit dmg temper
the hotfix did not decrease damage. and who are you kidding that ls/fo build isnt aoe centric? thats exactly what it is. it being a boss killer doesnt really happen till you get near perfect gear so you can have 30+ conjurations at once with 10+ ranks in to conjuration mastery. thats when the dmg is truly insane for single target as well. prior to that you are an aoe build
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I’m trying it out also, I was in the middle of swapping my char then had to log off just due to life - then of course they hotfix it that night lol.
My problem in mine is my winterglass is only 0.1 on the cdr thing. It’s just too low. The build is frankly kind of crap without a huge roll on that as far as I can tell. My bouncyball fireball build was far stronger.
That said I finally completed my season journey and I’m just 100% done. I’m not slowly farming blood anymore to try to get a better winterglass. I have better stuff to do with my time.
As an aside I wish blizz would implement a similar thing like resplendent sparks but for normal uniqes. I would gladly salvage 20 or 30 uniques for a winterglass. I have almost 4 entire stash tabs of uniques. Almost half from trying to farm a winterglass from Zir.
It seemed the AOE was somewhat incidental to the build- you have it but not really leaning into it? You’re right though- the Conjuration stacks and level are massive here. Out of curiosity I did test against the dummies but found I was only able to sustain about 10-12 stacks, briefly hitting 15. Conjurations coming off cooldown every 2.5 seconds or so with +7 to Conjuration Mastery