There is this lightning spear build which was thrown in by blizzard just by changing an aspect and an amulet. This was a lazy but clever move to silence the sorc players. No stats or skills had to be taken in consideration - just the aspect and amulet.
But sorcs who dont use those 2 things are still max ‘ok’ while rogue is OP.
Even the most optimistic sorc player knows that this build will be toned down, because it’s outcome is just to good for the effort you have to put in. Hell, you are mashing some buttons on cooldown while holding another one. You just need to follow the spears…
But let’s be REALLY honest - the other classes have similar problems compared to rogues 
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You guys just can’t be satisfied no matter what.
Just play the op class, when they see no one playing sorc they will buff it
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First time playing a season in the game? It’s why it’s called the flavor of the season, this won’t change anytime soon. Just wait to see what’s OP in S6.
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UH yeah, the LS build is incredibly boring to play after a while. But it was pretty damn fun for a couple of days while gearing it.
But let’s be honest, very few non-rogue builds come close to the high APM rogues have. Therefore, rogue tends to be the most engaging class to play. In the end, though, that’s all just OPINION.
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So whats the super awesome rogue build that does not need starless ring or Andariels Visage?
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Calm down, only barrage rogue is OP. None of the OP builds that you see in S5 will be viable in S6. Hell, they won’t even be playable at all. You can even quote me on that if you want.
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i started the season as a pee on everyone rogue (got a 925 skyhunter greater crit fairly early on). It was okay, i dont like peeing on everyone with frosty pee so after I got to 100, i made a druid.
druid play style of the stormslider was so visually fun to watch the purple lighting all over the screen. Super tanky and never died (didnt do crazy damage but got to 100)
made a sorc (needing to get sparks to craft an mystic since one will never drop for me) and without following the lighting spear guide, i went all in lighting (got the unique pants at wt2) and used chained lighting until i was in my upper 80s ans switched to the spear (my spear takes 18 seconds to cool down - again no mythics for me) so im not sure how many people can press and hold the spears and pump out 30 a second…
now that the sorc is 100 (a few days befor the mothers blessing xp went active) i made a necro - super crappy slow but a spark is a spark and im almost there claiming my next one
I met up with a sorc that clears t8s yesterday and he made a rogue thinking it was going to be better than his sorc since it takes him 45 minutes to do 1 t8 on his sorc (I havent done a t8 yet) but he said rogues can do t8s in under 2 minutes (again not sure how true that is - my rogue died even at level 100 at t3 in hordes) lol
i made an incinerate sorc as well and it does really well. sorc is by no means as weak as you claim, but yes there are always outliers and metas. im happy with my incinerate sorc though. works well in pvp too.
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This sounds like billionaires asking for tax breaks
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Lots of OK builds and a couple OP meta builds. Sounds like D4 to me.
everyone should just pay a flat tax.
I’m not a billionaire heck, im not even a millionaire but I still would agree with a simple plain flat tax regardless if you are a poor person or a zillionaire.
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flat taxes or consumption taxes are usually suggested by those who dont fully understand economics
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I agree i tried blizzard ice shards for 3 weeks only got to tier 6 hoardes with perfect gear. Slap on fractured winterglass with avg gear what ya know tier 7 hoardes I hate playing broken gear but if I want to farm materials quick that is what I have to do. Again don’t like it but thats how it is since this game has never ever been balanced.
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Sorry to say but your friend is telling you the truth. Rogue can clear tier 8’s with ease. I just want balance that is all I have ever asked is it better yes but Ice Shards, Firewall, Incenerate still need help and you know they will nerf fireball, frozen orb, and lightning spear at the end of the season.
As a long time Sorc player, I prefer my Andy Rogue over my LS/FO Sorc. Something in that Rogue build feels more satisfying specially against bosses.
While Rogues might take a lot of APM most of it is literally just mashing whatever button is off cooldown as soon as possible and hitting our shadow step or Aspect of Metamorphosis in case you need a panic cleanse.
Boring class vs boring class. Thats like comparing 2 migdets to see who is the taller one.
Sorc can also clear tier 8 with ease.
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Every single build for Spirit will be OP AF!
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