Honestly not a good sign. Season 2 has far to many issues and peoples patience with this company if definitely wearing thin and it is clearly being shown it all forms of metrics. Now trading is disabled because of another duping exploit lol. I’m not defending exploits; however, if they stopped trying to gate the hell out of everything people wouldn’t be doing this because there would be no need. I think a large part of the issue is that the Season 2 patch broke a lot of things and then created huge lag where Blizzards poor design and coding of the game has made it very very hard to fix. There is also the fact the most of Season 2 is just more copy paste. Very little in the way of new. I think they really need to take a step back and figure out these issues because all they are doing is dragging the Diablo name even further down. The fact that they prioritize issues with the shop and new content for the shop over in game rewards that are not being received and in game major issues is concerning to say the least.
Honestly, after the first couple of days of the season watching people power leveling, what else is there to see?
why would any sane person spend time “watching” someone play? That is strange behavior. stop it, get some help.
Do ARPGs normally pull a big twitch audience? Diablo gets huge spikes in viewers because its a relatively new release of a major franchise, but I can’t imagine it ever having a steady twitch audience. It will always spike at season start and dwindle to near nothing in a couple weeks.
*once the top 3-4 streamers stop playing diablo, they bring 99% of the audience with them.
People watching other people playing video games.
/yawn
I mean what do you expect? The season has only been out 6 days now. The hype was on the 17th and now begins the trickle process where the number will fall and fall until S3 where it’ll go back up depending on whats in store for S3.
Someone tell the zoomer that only other zoomers spend time watching someone else play a video game. The rest of us have wives/girlfriends, lives and jobs.
Thanks for the laughs.
poe is on 6k views. Diz gaem so ded.
And bg 3 avrg is around 3k. Must be a horrible game. Guess d4 isnt doing as bad as ppl claim.
It should spike again tomorrow when the next drop happens. Most people claimed the first drop already.
A lot of D4 twitch viewership is drop and new content driven. Long term viewership will probably be pretty small after the streamers clear the new content and drops end.
Doesn’t mean the game is bad. It’s just not entertaining for most people in the long run. Most looter games are like this unless they have a substantial PVP or roguelike elements.
Edit: or have a really entertaining streamer. There’s a few streamers who have built a solid audience playing limited games by simply being entertaining.
And this is why taking twitch viewership as a metric of success is inherently flawed.
I am happy with it so far. It’s more than I expected and there is a lot of different things to do that are rewarding. I am not going to make the claim that there aren’t any issues and that there’s a lot of things that should have been fixed a long time ago, but I will say, right now I am having a lot of fun and I am close to 75. My fun was slowing down considerably, pre season 1, long before this time.
I love ARPGs but watching people play them is extremely boring.
You know if you track peak viewership daily, you can see that on release and S1, retained viewership peak, but S2 was massive loss.
That shows that we had major attrition from S1 to S2.
It’s really hard to see the curve of attrition for S2, but it probably is not as bad as S1 since it seems to be better. So hoping for better curve.
The damage from S1 probably is permanent, or there might be some people coming back at S3 who sat out S2, but I think it’s mostly permanent losses until expac.
If the expac isn’t well received, then we probably looking at a very short D4 cycle time and D5 indeed coming out sooner than later as hinted by Blizzard already (they must already know the data).
***warning conspiracy theory below / fake news ***
I think there were two d4’s made, original one is still in development and will be D5 - this version probably the one that they were really working on, but due to probably new engine not really releasable anytime soon, so our current D4 is probably a parallel development with D3 engine (hence all the same problems and somewhat similar design - grifts/nm, whispers/bounties) - developped fast for release for microsoft sale.
Quit watching twitch and play the game.
That in itself is weird behavior.
It’s even worse actually - watching someone do Sarat’s Lair million times, literally that’s what they do to gain levels faster
That obsession with efficiency and speed really killed both - the content creators’ streams as well as the game
And sadly there are plenty of idiots who love to bring up twitch views constantly. Those ppl rly shows how the educational system in their country is rly lacking.
I do metrics for a living so I can tell everyone here that I am 100% certain viewership reflects game activity.
It’s also not linear.
But everyone here that thinks that twitch numbers are not a surrogate for game activity is dead wrong.
At the very end of the curve - as numbers dwindle, there are more people playing per
watcher.
Also demographics change, so older players who play just one game and never watch twitch like myself outweigh the younger twitch 2 monitor players that tend to hop game to game.
D4 had almost a million concurrent viewers at launch, so it’s lost over 95% in just 5 months, or over 900K. Call Guinness, we may have a new world record.
Well, there are seasonal players that come back so you really have to look at the peak per season and track that.
Then track the actual curves of attrition.
It’s not as simple as taking high and lows.
Peak on release, peak on S1, peak on sales (we had a labor day sale?), peak on steam release, peak on S2, etc…
The Peaks are trendable.
The curves are comparable. Once we get actual numbers from Blizzard, you can then correlate / marry to actually know what the numbers are.
We can only trend at this point.