Seriously, late game is BORING. BORING. BORING.
What made you think more of the same gameplay loop would be OK for late game progression? What on Earth made you think that was a smart idea.
World Bosses are GREAT.
PvP is GREAT (if it’s not bugged).
You know what’s not GREAT? Helltides and Whisper Tree. BORING.
Make world events happen more often. Make PvP suck less by offering decent rewards. Allow us to redo the campaign at will at whatever difficulty level we want.
Now we have an end game that work. Right now it’s BORING. You totally screwed up late game, there’s no world events, there’s nothing but BORING content like Helltides.
BORING
BORING
BORING
Think of better end-game stuff than same old grinding under another name.
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I knew the end game would be extremely boring, so I slated the pre-season to be when I get all the challenges and then wait until they make the game good which is exactly what I did in D3.
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I kind of like the helltides. Although, I could see myself getting bored with them eventually. I prefer an MMO method that I can target specific loot from specific places though instead of this anything can drop anywhere anytime and its all RNG rolled stuff.
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I agree the end game is lacking, but to be fair the world tree and hell tides are just a side thing. I did one hell tide in wt4 and got 30+ of the upgrade mat. the nightmare dungeons are the main end game which is the most interesting and challenging content for now.
sounds like you’ve never played a diablo game…
Baal Runs… they weren’t exciting but we did that ish for HOURSSSS
Diablo 3…uh. what? Greater Rifts and bounties… that got boring after awhile. - Then they added seasons to “spice” them up a bit… didn’t help too much as it was still the same game play loop…
it’s an AARPG and Diablo. What’d you expect?
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……that’s literally what Diablo items have always been.
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Nightmare modes are kind of fun but helltides and whisper tree are lame and mostly unrewarding.
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I would rather do Helltides, Tree of Whispers and Nightmares than mindlessly grind rifts.
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Yeah and? Does that mean I can’t prefer one method over another? I can still enjoy a game and enjoy a different ways of things being done at the same time.
Helltides coud have better monster density, most of the zone is empty.
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D4 is fun, that is for sure. But don’t expect any depth.
Reason why PoE is still the king of ARPG. PoE2 can only get better.
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I could tell the game was boring even a while ago when they’d release videos. Holding down a basic button with only 5 others to press other than that which are needed for a press-and-forget buff or two, and high cooldown moves. Thanks Blizzard for catering to console players and their controllers. Nothing I’ve seen brings ANYTHING new to the table whatsoever in terms of video games in general, ARPGs, gameplay, ect. Even the dash feels like it’s from 2000s. They did a bang-up job on marketing and monetization though.
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Stop blaming console controllers. They are capable of more than double the skills of D4. They can barely balance the limited skills they do have.
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wtf are you talking about… Diablo has never had 1209381908 buttons to use. they didn’t cater to console players at all. and i have no basic “spam” attack with my build… so that’s also avoidable.
There are builds out there where you dont need to do “resource/essence/rage” management. Trampleslide for druid for example. It uses no spirit with the right set up.
I love it when people complain about controllers being such a hindrance to D4’s slot options… when D2R’s controller scheme is 12
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I’ll disagree on Helltides being bad.
I quite enjoy Helltides but they’re meant to be enjoyed in a small session, they’re not a “grind for hoirsnipon hours” type of an event. Hell, I’d even say the actual end-game (Nightmare Dungeons) should not be grinded at all.
D4’s end game is obviously catered more at those of us who are hoping to get 1-2 hour in a day compared to 3-4 hours per day (or more). I’ve been part of the latter crowd so I understand the desire and passion for that type of content but that is not what Blizzard appears tmight come in a season but I doubt it
currently i dont really dont know what to do.
i played some nightmare dungeons. they dropped some good loot but are very easy. how do i upgrade them? All my keys are level 1.
the whisper tree quest are just busy work. then travel to the tree and get a chest with boring loot.
Helltides ist just open world mobs killing. its getting very boring really fast.
and thats it?
and killed a world boss today on WT3. was to easy. jusdt loot 9 level under my level.
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None of it is great. None of the activities have their own loot tables to make you want to do them.
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Expect an ARPG that is up to modern standards. Global drop pools aren’t modern standards.
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I’d LOVE to do Duriel runs or whatever. But you can’t because end game is BORING.
Can’t do anything fun in the campaign either to offset this. BORING. BORING. BORING.
Bad late-game decisions on Blizzard’s part. Why should I farm Uniques if the only thing they’re useful is BORING gameplay?
No other Diablo game has thing problem. Who thought this crap up?
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