Last campfire chat chance for build diversity

Ok the expansion is out now and everyone that was convinced by the most expensive marketing campaing since launch already was denied a refund…

So what will be Diablo’s total revamp now?

80% of existent skills in the game are dead and unusable even for levelling. Take barb for example: if you are not a caster / thrower your build is non-existent.

There’s only room for meta / blasters builds, persistent bug explores and no sense of build diversity whatsoever.

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Disagree big disagree here for leveling you can play almost everyting without dying. But later when it comes to T2 and higher you are highly recommended to use skill combinations which makes sense. And need fitting gear for that. In T4 you are indeed right many skills are useless, also depending on your class.

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The Rogue’s Key Passive significantly influences build effectiveness. Currently, top-tier builds predominantly utilize the Momentum and Precision passives. Momentum enhances survivability and energy regeneration, while Precision boosts critical strike potential. Other Key Passives, such as Victimize, Exposure, Close Quarters Combat and the new one are less commonly used. Balancing these alternatives could diversify viable Rogue builds, offering players more strategic options.

That because a majority of players is only interested to rush the content and the season and go away after 2 or 4 weeks.

I played Spiritborn, then Necro Minions, then Shatter Frostfire Sorcerer, and now i’m on Druid Minions.

The Spiritborn strenght is about how bugged he is actually, not tested at max lvl compare to the 5 others on the S6 PTR. Only a few minority had test the Spiritborn at lvl 30. This is not a like this Blizzard should test a class by players.

Now let’s talk about the meta, every players i know play the meta because they want to play something powerfull, something who don’t need to spread huge time to be overpower. That is not a “speculation”, that is a fact.

And a huge part of the community, and playerbase in general, don’t even know how damage and defense is scaled on the game. Critical Damage? OP Damage? Damage? Vulnerable damage? Resi? When i still hear at the 6th season a player discover OP Damage is scaled with maximum life, when he play since the first season, it’s the proof player don’t care about others builds in majority.

Welcome to the modern era of gaming. We call this Metaslave. And we all a part of it.

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He’s talking about efficient leveling.

Yes only a few skills are usable by each class. You can put the bad skills on your bar sure. You can wear your shoe as a hat too.

Blizzard needs to buff each classes skills by a great deal. Having 1 or 2 builds at a time is bad game design. Why bother creating all those skills if 80% of them suck? People do want to try different builds and skills.

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The biggest issue is that Spirit Born has 8-10 t4 builds and everyone else maybe has 1.

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I play barb in hardcore it’s the most fun I’ve had since the game came out.

I’m playing my own build….sure it won’t reach the lofty heights of pit 150 but who cares I’m having fun.

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Last chance. LAST CHANCE! DID YOU HEAR THAT EVERYONE? LAST CHANCE!!!

this is like the 5th post in the past few days with this theme. this is the thousandth post over the past year saying the same thing.

but people who say “last chance”, always come back for the next season. And they say it again. Then come back for the next season… rinse repeat.

This is the 11th last chance blizzard has had with D4. How many more times before you people ACTUALLY leave and stop with this nonsense?

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then it shouldn’t bother you that blizz nerf their stolen idea class, cool original class, it’s just udyr from lol.

Stolen……wha….ok I’m not sure what your on about now I’ve been busy having fun so obviously I’ve missed something….

Plz don’t bother filling me in I’m sure I won’t give :poop:

There clearly some Spiritborne only players answering to the main post with the conviction of a blind man… Barbarian is dead in the game and Druid is not far from ti (again, with the obvious exception of 1 or 2 usable builds).

My post was about the game and not about Spiritbornes which obviously has build variety within the own class

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They’re too busy playing the meta.

The build diversity in the game is actually pretty great IMO. The problem is not diversity, but equality. Having diverse builds means nothing if 90% of the builds are underpowered compared to the rest.

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I have to be pretty honest: you invalidaded your own argument. Clicking whatever and using whatever doesn’t mean built diversity, it can be doen without any plan or strategy. However if you plan things strategically to work together and even so they are laughable in comparison 1 or 2 top builds, it doesn’t matter how many ways you can build your strategy. If there’s no power equality in some reasonable way, that’s exactly what no diveristy means.

I feel summer creeping in
and I’m tired of this game again. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not sure what you mean. Build diversity and equality are not the same thing.

You say “clicking whatever and using whatever does not mean build diversity”. What does that even mean? Of course you’re clicking and using skills. This is a computer game. With this argument you can say there’s no build diversity in any game ever made because you have to use a mouse and keyboard to play them.

You literally said that “The build diversity in the game is actually pretty great”. This would only be true if there was some balance in terms of power. Build diversity and equality go hand to hand, one can only be true with the other. Otherwise they are meaningless in practical terms.

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Yeah…that’s exactly what I said. :rofl:

Which means build diversity is actually pretty bad man. You stated otherwise. You can’t have it both ways…

You wanted to soun smart, I get it… But for instance, having a single Frenzy amulet for Barbs with broken low damage or synergies for the skill doesn’t mean that a “Frenzy Barb build” exists… This doesn’t count towards your “build diversity”.

If it is so bad to the point that you can’t use it’s not diversity.

No, that’s not what it means. Just because build equality is bad DOES NOT mean that build diversity is bad. It’s really that simple. You trying to build a straw man doesn’t change anything.

If they buff underperforming builds, that will go a long way toward making the already diverse builds more equal. That is what the game needs. It doesn’t need more diverse builds. It needs the builds to be on an equal playing field when it comes to power so they’re all equally viable.