There’s a ton of suggestions on this forum right now about ways sorc could be improve, but not a lot talking about how it feels to be way less powerful than other classes. It sucks thinking “I guess I should make class X if I want to do content Y” when all you really want to do is play sorc.
Being the worst class wouldn’t be so bad if the gap between best and worst wasn’t so large, but the gap really is quite large this season.
This sucks for sorc enjoyers, and I implore blizzard to take a hard look at balancing out the classes overall so that no class has to feel this way.
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People are speed clearing 60 pits on other classes while we can bairly beat it. Legendary masterwork mats are SO hard to get for sorc.
Every league Sorc gets worse and worse I dont get it.
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I do. Every patch has seen the removal ofmore and more reliable interactions of sorc skill/enchants and gear. Teleport enchant has been effectively nerfed multiple times. Firebolt enchant has had a reduction in lucky hit rates, or perhaps all dots (the only way to get xfals reliable like it was last patch is the incinerate enchant and blizzard spam, for some reason). Icefall paragon board has been changed to conditional cold damage multiplier instead of a unique survivability effect for mobbing, and the dev team seems to be nudging us in an odd direction of ‘just be glass bro’ (see the new multiplier aspect conditional on no defensive skills). Thats not considering the adjustments to the new unique amulet (i havent used it nor did i test on ptr). The current dev intent for sorc is to spam blizzard whilst remaing glass.
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Someone brought this up in another thread and I can’t agree more. All of the proc “on cast” functionality keeps getting stripped away until we are stuck hard casting a bunch of low damage spells. Really weird that they keep moving away from the cool/fun interactions.
The thing I just don’t get is that people are having fun on sorc, and then the fun builds get absolutely nerfed into the ground. Not just a minor adjustment, massive adjustment. After season 2, BL not only had the attack speed bug fixed, but they also nerfed the spell damage heavily, AND put a hard cap on attack speed.
Speaking of hard caps, our paragon tree legendaries are all hard capped uber low. Meanwhile, barb has infinite scaling legendary nodes. These hard caps really need to go away. Let people have fun ffs.
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you want them to balance the other classes? how about they just make sorcerer better. why does everyone else need to join in on your suffering?
I swear this game came out about a year ago and sorc players still pissing and moaning.
I just dont understand why how good/bad the other classes are has any bearing on the idea of enjoying your own class.
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Why are you here? It’s obvious you don’t understand.
I dont play or care about the other classes, but if you played sorc, you’d know that all we see is negative net patches in terms of class functionality. Sure, spam blizzard, it still works. Boring though.
They do not want to, its very clear every single patch.
this d4 dev team have no clue what “class balance” means…
They should take some lessons with WOW dev team which is doing a really good work in this subject in a far more complex game than d4.
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Sorc needs a total redesign, It was already bad from the beginning. The entire Sorc skill tree feels terrible and just tiny compared to other classes. There is no variety or different builds, or fun builds, basically all Sorc builds use 3-4 def on their skill bar, bad design. Sorc was so much better in D3. I kinda am close to giving up Sorc for ever now. Enough is enough. D4 team is incompetent or doesnt seem to play Sorc at all.
Sorc dying on Pit 61, just able with luck finishing the pit boss if its an easy one, doing 400k crits, where barb is face rolling through 80-90 with 200 million crits. How incompetent can a dev team be.
I have to use 3 def legendaries on my Sorc plus “abusing” Vyrs Mastery just for the nother 20% dmg reduction and still not enough. What a total desaster this is.
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I think we’re at the point in this game where there needs to be a universal abandonment of the class until they wake up and fix it. The only way they’ll notice, let alone even acknowledge that there’s a problem, is by a mass effect on playtime like this. A simple acknowledgement of their awareness of the issues and of plans to address them would go a long way. We’re the only class forum filled with topics like this every season, and not a word of recognition of the issues, only further nerfs.
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Mages always have to have two shield skills, I hate it.
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Two shield skills + teleport + firebolt enchantment. So we get to pick half of our on use skills and half of our enchantment slots. The rest are automatic.
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Tried ice shards this season, realized I’m screwed around pit level 50 when boss took a long time and I saw “some” other classes just crush it. Funny enough the build and power level feels like it did back in s0, struggling at NMD80+. I can’t bring myself to roll barb or necro, or change to whatever skill is best for sorc right now, so the wait for s5 begins but I’m afraid we will get jumping puzzles or similar then.
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This is kind of the problem with Diablo, the difference between a meta build/class and not meta is insane. Its literally hundreds of millions dps differences currently. Hate how season 4 has become either minions or season of basic attacks.
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Was this the flameweaver build from that german guy where every piece of equipment was a triple greater affix? How does one get so lucky? I mean, with that equipment, its not skill but being a friend of a developer 
I agree that it is rediculous that we have to be at level 12 masterwork to advance. Im currently at level 1 for two pieces of equipment. Level 79 sorc. I have no materials to upgrade further. I have one item with greater affix, and that greater affix is for health. Which is not helpful with shadow uber lillith
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Thank you.
At this point im going to save materials and just do what OliveGarden and Acruid and everyone else does: stagger as quickly as possibe:
Fireshield stun, lightning spear stun, chance to CC affixes, max out tal rasha (by using 4 diff elements), staff, INT gems, vulnerable + int weapons, esu boots, do run with fake seasonal account player who plays as barb and complains sorc too strong
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I forced a clear to 53 on a legacy gear load9ut that doesnt work very well, didnt meet the timer. Def need to do some redesign lol
Macro, can you post Acruid’s build please?
Ooh so i was wrong about your earlier post, darth
I was curious why people choose raiment vs a regular chest with snowveiled. That is 10 seconds of barrier and tibault so much more damage. Im assuming it is just another stagger.