Hi all.
Question about this weapon for the Rogue.
If we use 3 combo points, then the damage from the main skill can increase by 40%.
If I understand the mechanics correctly, we simply multiply our damage by 40%.
However, vulnerability damage is also considered a separate coefficient. It turns out that 40% damage to vulnerable heroes = the unique property of this weapon?
This means that it’s better to just find a good weapon with damage to vulnerable enemies + other good substats.
The only thing we lose is the ability to get 3 combo points at once. But this is a rather weak bonus in my opinion.
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Is actually one of the two uniques that I ever would consider in rogue, other being the penintent greaves. 40% multi is huge, even a sword with ideal affixes (crit damage + vuln damafe + close damage + stats), wouldn’t add so much damage, but it does get close.
Boots are really good.
But even though I play build control + freeze, I don’t need them.
However, I still don’t understand about those 40%.
As I wrote above - 40% of the unique dagger, this is a separate modifier. Similarly, a separate modifier is damage to vulnerable enemies.
Isn’t 40% on vulnerable enemies equal to 40% on a knife?
Ahh… nope, let me explain:
Vulnerable damage and Critical Damage are natural separate modifiers, however in rogue you end up getting 300%+ of both.
From 300% vulnerable damage adding +35% (is what you get from a high roll in a one handed), is 435/400 global increase in damage, so is a bit shy of 9% global damage. Something similar happens with critical damage.
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It seems I understood.
I took the bare value of damage to the vulnerable. That is just 40%
But in fact it could be 200 + 40%
Thus, if we take the conditional:
damage 100
Damage to Vulnerable 200%
Dagger modifier40%
100 (damage) * 200% (damage to vulnerable) * 40% (dagger modifier) = 280
100(damage) * 240% (damage to vulnerable + substat to damage to vulnerable) * 1 (without dagger modifier) = 240
Yes, indeed this single modifier is too strong. Thanks for helping me figure it out
However, as fast as I understood what written in the legendary affixes, I don’t need to use Combo Points from the Specialization to make it work.
In reality, I need to use 3 Combo Points in order to make it work. That is weird to me.
I understood you correctly? We can take another specialization, but combo points will still work?
Condemnation is god-tier on my rapid-fire rogue. Personally, I use Grasp of Shadow, Condemnation and Doombringer.
Is the conclusion of everyone’s experience that ultimately Condemnation is just a better Expectant aspect?
What? There is a unique dagger that adds a lot of atk speed, it’s bis for any melee build
You can get attack speed from so many places, you could run the attack speed on core crit aspect with an actual BiS affixes sword instead, if you want that specific thing.
As far as I’ve seen there is no cap on atk speed so it’s still bis no matter what
OK, you don’t play/understand the game. Is fine.
I guess you don’t understand atk speed equals more attacks and thus equals more damage pretty easy concept I dunno how you don’t understand it, not to mention more heals for rogue ie siphon strike
Well you can’t use two Aschear’s right?
So most is one Aschear and maybe Condenmation to be cute on the other slot or imprinted.
But people, not looking for a debate on value of attack speed. Trying to understand Condenmation unique dagger affix vs Exptectant’s.
Well, attack speed is quite important, but this is not theory only. On the field, you’re not attacking continuously, there are downtimes. I don’t care if against boss can be great, as we spend 99% of the time not dealing with bosses.
Rogues have no downtime what are you talking about?
Ok… Gotcha, you don’t play the game. Anyways.
Edit: The actual effect caps at 30% speed BTW. Checked ingame, I expected it somehow changed but there’s a clear cap of the effect.
Doombringer? Is there still any poor rogue who dont have it yet? 
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Let me just dust off that Shako I haven’t been using.
Yes, I guess I totally forgot about the possibility of equipping all the Doombringer’s I’ve found along with the plenty Staff of Lam Esen that drop instead.
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