The damage output from sorc is stupid. I’m running nightmare 60-70 dungeons with my brother (barbarian) and buddy (necro). How is it balanced when the barb crits for 2-5m and can actually kill stuff, and the necro is 1 shotting bosses with 8-10m crits and I’m over here still hitting stuff for 100k on sorc…. I’ve watched countless videos have spent a ton of hours perfecting sorc and best build I’ve found is I’ve shards. Does great at stuff my level but if I want to do anything higher teir I can’t.
Also the survival is stupid. I ice block and immediately die after it’s over before I can even teleport out sometimes. Other times I teleport in and instantly die… I’ve made a rule to never enter a doorway without all my barriers going and still that isn’t enough sometimes.
I love the game but im about to quit entirely, after spending so many hours im to the point where it’s just not fun anymore….
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That 13 page buff list better have half of it being sorc reworks…
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Why? What’s the point of running T60 nightmare dungeons? That’s level 114 right?
I don’t get the point of running anything over 10 levels higher than you. And that’s just for some challenge. The enemies don’t scale in a way that is comparable to us. The ways people are able to pusher further is by exploiting mechanics or so much dps nothing can touch them.
I don’t think the class is terrible it just needs some balancing.
The class has a good toolkit and the skills are enjoyable, they just need a few rounds and of buffs.
Hopefully starting with the pre-season 1 patch.
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I have been saying it non-stop since the beginning: Sorc is completely useless. There are tons of NPCs saying that she is fine, but I can’t understand how it works in their brain to say it.
Just check the next big patch they announced. If Sorc is still not respected, simply delete the game to make a statement, spam forums, boycott it. Thanks.
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Literally making us wait for a massive release instead of hot fixing a broken class… typical blizzard just force you to re rolll another class just to do end game. 95% of the skill tree is trash, even a 300% buff to every skill does not put Sorc on the level of barbs and rogues or even necros doing millions in damage. It’s an obvious issue and should be fixed immediately… devs I think just do not care.
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There aren’t any meaningful rewards locked behind the most difficult content, so it’s not that dire. But they need to make very meaningful changes before season 1. I have to believe the devs are well aware that sorc is the only class that can’t kill Echo of Lilith. Or if they do, it takes them 4-6x longer than the other classes.
Right… exactly, also 95% of the skill tree is trash. Why even release a class that is so bad, how does this get through their own UAT it’s not hard to see other classes hitting for millions and Sorc hitting for thousands, obvious gap in power. Waiting for season 1 is a joke and a lazy way out for the devs. They literally do not care. Also one Sorc did it with a bug and it still took 15 minutes lol that’s how pathetic it is.
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Maybe I’m more optimistic. I doubt they’ll suddenly make every skill useful, but it sounds like they are working on a big balance patch to fix a lot of stuff at the same time. Other classes have useless skills even thought their most powerful builds are better than sorc, and that should drop before S1. I’m reserving judgement until then.
Yeah I mean across the board the skills should at-least be usable or why have them. It does not have to be balanced perfectly, just playable. There should never be an instance of some skills doing 1000% more damage than others, that is literally bad/lazy design. Or some classes doing 5-8x the damage of another class on average and having more survivability. It’s like the whole glass cannon concept is gone, some people like to play tanker builds some like heavy damage, some enjoy a moderation of both, aoe vs single target etc… it feels like we have none of that really. People will always find a meta, but in these games the meta gets boring and people would explore other viable routes that maybe is not meta but more fun. The opportunity to do that is just not in the game, i honestly feel I have more build diversity in Diablo 2.
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The class is just seemly a after thought to the devs imo, nothing about it is even remotely tuned correctly. Hell man, these lazy devs aren’t even bothered to produce new cosmetics for the class on the shop and that’s there to steal money from people. If they cannot be bothered to do that, I wouldn’t expect to much from them in actually fixing the class.
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I am not sure about your build , but I am a level 84 sorcerer and things 7 levels above me just melt , even when I do legion events with randoms I most of the times take one portion of the map by myself because of how fast I down things compared to all other classes
She is good to fast clean weak mobs, that’s absolutely all she can really do.
weak mobs =/= dungeon 50+
weak mobs =/= echo of lilith
weak mobs =/= PVP
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The struggle is timing for this topic. Even though sorc is top played class it depends how many are making it to the point of noticing the power drop. Sorc levels well and with some gear along the way they really have good speed and power early to mid game. The issue is that when sorc starts min/maxing gear in the 70-80s they stop gaining power while the other classes keep exponentially growing.
It’s just a fyi to those that are thinking they are fine in the lower to mid levels, you will approach a wall as you get toward end game where you can “clear” stuff, but you will be slow in damage and very fragile. You will notice other classes outperform you largely and you might think it is ok because you can solo clear or do ok, that is just denial. We have paragon legend nodes not working, bugs with our abilities, and entire resistance pool in paragon/int being worthless. I really do not understand why they hit us with nerfs early in release timing.
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Because they just don’t want everyone to play sorcerer, they are simply forcing people to switch classes.
Or it’s personal, devs don’t like sorc in Diablo
Or last option, devs are not gamers at all
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the scaling of this class is just bad, over all design of the skill system with the sorc as well. if u not playing a cold build u dont have access to vulnerable damage, only choice u got was using frost nova for that 4 second window lock behind 24 second cooldown windows. also resist is broken as well, so entire deffense was none existence and there literally no point stating into resist node in ur paragon tree. they pretty much state they have no time to fix resist until season 2, so I’m gonna play druid comes season 1. no point struggle soo much with a broken class, while there r class u can just play with one mouse button that will do everything for u.
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Sorc as a class is fine it just wasn’t designed around crit damage and vulnerable damage stacking which is the meta rn. They need to do a whole item rebalance to fix the issue though, so it will take a while for sorc to be strong like barb and necro.
13 pages of buffs cannot fix inherently crap skills.
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Legion events are open world, everyone can open world in wt4.
Lvl 56 cold sorc here. I’ve had my struggles but right now I’d say it’s going quite well. This is partly because I believe cold is one of the best builds, and I have fairly decent gear. Obviously this could change drastically when I get to 70-100 due to what others have mentioned. It does seem that nearly every other class scales better than sorc, but we shall see.