hi all character name (kuwait) necro at level 73
lets get to the point
necro class is just for story finish main quest line and then leave it.
i tried every freaking build so far and got wrecked at world tier 4
i dare you to try and do sigil dungeon level 23 solo without spending over an hour
its a grind based game so you need to be fast and strong to actually grind but the class lacks in everything mobility, strength and survivability basically trashy compared to all 4 class’s
lets talk about minions which is why we have necro class ““necromancer is a character that summons the dead to achieve his goals”” but diablo 4 necromancer summons skeletons just to summon them again and again and again and again
if by somehow you found an elite that has fire buff or electric pillars on him graaatz your dead your minions dead your golem is dead and you are mentally abused
in that moment you reflect on the work you did in your real life to buy a game waiting for a necromancer thats gonna make you love turning your pc off and go to sleep
in world tier 4
blood build(lance or surge) are weak af
shadow build (blight, corpse explosion or sever) have fun running around without potions and not managing to kill the elites
bones build (bone spear) strong build but with group plays otherwise you will be running around like a fool
minions build(dont make me laugh)
what makes it even worse that youtubers making necro builds for views only cuz they know people are searching for something good everywhere and there is not a single build that is viable for world tier 4 solo
druids, warriors, rogues, and mage’s are laughing at you when you stand at an event waiting for someone to do it for you
while they go through everything and kill everything fast moving around faster than you see you self rising you minions or running away from elite
its just trash trash trash
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I can’t wait until I reach WT4 and wreck it. So far everything I’ve done with summoner necro has entirely countered what’s been spewed on the forums. And it’s given me such a high. Doing something that a bunch of other people keeps screeching isn’t possible is ridiculously amazing for your confidence when it’s been in the gutters for a while. Yeah, it’s just a videuh game, but it’s nice to know I’m not as crap at video games as I think I am.
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what about the fextralife reaper build meant for solo ? 50+ From what I understand you need really good armor with correct buffs to hit Tier 4 solo
Just asking I don’t know
minions are a JOKE. all i do is press summon skeleton legit every 1-2 seconds they are always dead. they die instantly and wander arround like idiots.
not sure if i can keep going. level 63.
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that what i was thinking , im doing something others cant do but when i went to normal dungeon on WT4 getting killed until i finished it 35 minutes passed i got pissed on how sad that class is in hight tier while my cousins managed to finish 3 or 2 normal dungeons in that time
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I held out a loooooong time on minions and it felt fine but it got to be a slog like you’re saying in T4 especially when the elites are hard counters to the minions so I dropped them completely at 66. I’ve been using bone spear and it is incredibly strong and I don’t have to run around much but its built around using CDs to kill a big pull then waiting for the next. I can stack a ton of elites, tendril them together and trap them in a prison. 3 maybe 4 spears and all are dead with the echoing spear unique. The build doesn’t work without the unique but most don’t work without something specific like that.
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my gear is all ancestral and good but its still painful to see all 4 class’s cheese that world
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having skeletons feels like a big big chore and annoying beyond belief. perma dead runs arround like idiots half the time, doesnt even soak that much dmg all mobs that matter ignore them and go for you. cringe
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Same here! I am so happy to read these posts while recking tier 20+ dungeons with ease already at level 63!
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thats the thing you wait you can go to another group of elites
and if by chance you ran into 2 of them its a deadly chase especially in sigil dungeons when you only have 4 deaths untill its broken
wish you the best of luck
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Oh boy… you are in for a rude awakening!
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Guess you are under level 50 and havn’t touched endgame yet because summoner necro does own the story content. Not as fast as the others but you wont die. As soon as mid game hits you will have to change to a “meta” build and still watch as the other classes blow past you with their higher damage, mobility and defence. Its a huge slap in the face to have chosen something thats this much weaker than everything else.
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i thought the same thing on my bone necro, i was legit blasting through everything deleting bosses and packs left and right.
but when i moved to tier 4 at lvl 61, something changed. I think the frequency of mobs having randoming affixes that totally counter anything necro can do is what does it.
you have the teleportation affix, where a huge elite will teleport from 60 yards away right into your face. Bone necro is squishy af
you have burn, poison, lightning rod + all the other random ground effects that your minions take full dmg from while you can’t do anything about it.
then you have suppressor elites every single dungeon that 100% counters bone spear as it eats up the back end of the spear dmg even if you are inside the dome. I have 3 characters at 60+, and none have had such a difficult time vs supressor
Minions are ridiculously squishy.
Necro is crazy slow AND squishy which is quite the combo.
Suppressor is a ridiculous affix and should be deleted from the game - immunities are giga feels bad in any arpg
Seriously… in a game where there are a billion one-shot ground effects, a billion and one one-shot swing attacks that you need to avoid, it’s crazy that they’ve created a class without a single mobility button.
The only reason why necro worked in tier 3 is because you’re minions survived and tanked for you, so you get to do tons of damage, but in tier 4, there are so many things that counter necro minions and even necro damage that it REALLY falls off. Just wait till you see it, none of the guys here are exaggerating. I thought they were at first but now i wish i never leveled my necro to begin with.
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Same, all the time spent on the necro is a waste and if i want to continue to play its either suffer through the crappiness of picking the wrong class or do the entire story again on something else. Or wait until 3 friends are on and feel like a leech
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i come from world of warcraft where the balance philosophy is to always have a terrible class that’s way worse than the others( i played death knight in pvp)
I’m confident that necro won’t see significant changes that fix these issues any time soon. Maybe in a year or so this will get attention.
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Level 71 here, wt4 NM 23+ keys are friggan rough. Doesnt take annhour but it does take 30 to 40 minutes for me personally.
No way in hell this is intended.
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Necro definitely is the worst class but if you are getting rekt as you put it in WT4 then part of the problem is you man. Your build/gear/skill is probably trash. Im 73 and clear 30+ nightmare dungeons with relative ease. The biggest disadvantage facing Necro is how slow they are and how much setup our damage takes.
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And fire enchanted mobs. Dont forget those too
The way i see it balance is thst were all on the RELATIVELY same level.
If a sorc barb druid whatever can clear a key in 5-10 mins, necro should be able to as well.
And if not thats the necromancer, not the player.
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I’m Level 73 and I can barely manage a T25 nightmare dungeon. My friend who I group with was a Lv75 barb at the time, tanking and destroying everything in a T35 dungeon even before I can reach the mob. He went full whirlwind build and is 3x faster than me. He’ll get to the boss and kill it before I can run to it. Something doesn’t seem to add up for the Necromancer.
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I am a lvl 79 necromancer now and I do level 30-35 Nightmare dungeons easily in 10 min, and 35-40 with minor issues and an occasional death or two when i screw up in 12-20 min.
I want to use this opportunity to echo the same sentiment Krip ushered: Int main are a bit busted right now because of how resistances work. In that they don’t work. Armor is the king of survival, followed by close damage reduction and all damage reduction. The game is all about managing survival and very much Feast or Famine right now for sorcs and necros both, as things either go very well or absolutely terrible.
That said, if you know which affixes to avoid on nigtmare dungeons it is very doable and doable quickly. Minions don’t do a lot of damage (ok minions don’t do ANY damage except for single target bosses), but serve as a decent layer of protection if you can afford it. The fix we will eventually get is propably gonna be minions becoming FAR more resistant to all kinds of nightmare affixes. Especially the pylons, as NO amount of damage reduction lets them tank them for more than a few seconds.
But to be fair, T4 is rn not balanced for ANY class. Frozen enchantment on high attackspeed mobs literally stunlocks you making a single hit that you can not counter a guaranteed kill. Mobs can spawn walls all around you while also spawning deadly aoe, and if you can not teleport out or tank through, you just die. Everything is deadly, and only the absolutely best god tier builds with near permanent access to unstopable are pushing beyond 50. And honestly, thats kinda fun. Games should be challenging at the tail end. I may be in the absolute minority, but I really enjoy Nightmare 35-40 as Necro, and I look forward to pushing to 50 once I get even better gear and in the 99%++ damage reduction range.
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