this is the type of thing im concerned about when it comes to the items in the game… no item is going to last more the max 2 lvls becous of item lvl…
and this video really showcases how that feels…
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I used some lower stuff for quite a while (~5+ sometimes) without much of a hassle during the 1-25 experience.
Once we stop our 1-50 leveling and instead start advancing through difficulty levels I’d imagine you should be able to become a bit more married to your equipment once you get a decent new piece from your current difficulty setting.
Love those videos. xD
So, are you saying item levels will be frustrating because you constantly need to replaced them?
I mean, we did have higher drop rates during the beta, so I suppose it might also turn out to be that we’re happy about any drop at all during leveling, once the game goes live.
I do agree that it’s somewhat disconcerting, though, to think that maybe you’ll have the perfect gear setup on max level, except for the actual item levels. Might become quite frustrating, not unlike trying to find the perfect item in D3 sometimes, even though there it’s not about item level, but “ancient”, and “primal” with the right stats on it.
why are you concerned? you don’t have to buy anything. you enter a dungeon, drop a blue or yellow, it’s usually comparable or better than what you can buy from merchants.
npcs are there for your convenience if you want to level an alt. you start a fresh new char and let’s say you didn’t bother collecting and stashing few yellows along the way with your main to make your life easier later, so now you can’t equip your alt with owned gear?
np. you go to any npc, spend pocket money, nothing relevant (4-5k is nothing when you’ll be lev 50 and beyond farming with your main), and in few secs you are more than ready to start farming without even bothering to look after drops.
you just farm a dungeon, reset, rinse and repeat, and each now and then tp to town when your gear stats start falling behind monsters lev, buy new item for lousy little gold, go on few hrs til it’s high lev and you can start thinking about real gear. what’s a costly and unviable chance for your first char, is a trivial cheap and convenient solution for all your alts.
All these games have a similar curve in gear replacement.
Starts out frequently ends up finding upgrades are like pulling teeth.
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thats a good point actually… but im still concerned about it…
the video was about buying an item… but i do mean drops… never saw a good item being sold by a vendor at all… its the reaction of just getting a awsome item and then immidiatly replacing it…
i hope so… getting gear your cherish and feel acomplised by getting is one of the few things i liked about D2… items just seem like they have no identity (if that makes sense)
like a Windforce dropped when your lvl X is not as good as a windforce dropped at higher lvl…
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Just a thought: It might turn out to be nice to have additional drops, so you can extract the aspect from your double item and use it to experiment with nice yellow items you get or overwrite an aspect on another item (from ring to amulet for example). I also found it good to have extracted aspects in my inventory when I wanted to switch other items around to avoid having one aspect on two items, thus wasting one spot.
Being able to extract and imprint aspects really helps ease that feeling of needing to replace an early great item. Until we get to uniques, of course, but those are gated until later.
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Which ARPG is it where you don’t frequently replace gear while leveling?
Who doesn’t like finding new gear that’s an upgrade?
Sure, its possible that it could be happening so often that it would feel like you’re spending too much time comparing gear rather than killing demons, but that wasn’t really the case in the beta even with increased drops. (At least in my experience)
Stick to +2 or +3 on your equipment while leveling up, lol
MAYBE if you have a really special piece get it to +4 or if you are like me and not worried about swapping armor IF it has the exact right affixes and you value that more than item power.
+1 on everything is super cheap
I just upgraded an item if it had good stats so that it would last an extra couple levels.
That’s good while leveling. Even at max level it’s a good thing. We play loot based games to find more loot, that’s the entire end game unfortunately. I wish they’d give us something to do with that gear at certain levels besides repeating the same content at a higher difficulty, but the community is opposed to harder content and raids.
In D3 we’d plateau quickly, because they handed you gear so easily. Within a day or two you could already have every item you need for your build, and then the game became finding those same items with slightly better stats. Eventually you’d go a week or more without finding an upgrade at all. That’s usually when I quit the season.
This is the case in a lot of ARPG’s while leveling, it is just the nature of things.
When you start getting into the 50+ and 70+ ranges I think your gear will start becoming a lot more long term gear
i did feel i spend alot of time looking trough gear in the beta… might be better at release with lower drop rates… hard to tell…
i hope your right…
seconding this.
before 50 guess we’ll basically don’t even bother to stop and check if this or that item is better than another item dropped few minutes or seconds before.
equip whatever yellow each 2-3 levs, it’s likely an upgrade no matter what it is and nothing that we won’t replace in other 2-3 levs anyway. if you drop a leg. you equip it, use it 3-4 levs at most, then stash and save for later.
in beta you extracted aspects to finish gear at 25 only because that was the cap (and before that for fun and experiment, since drop rate was increased), guess in full with real drop rate we’ll simply do that at 50, to gear up before entering nightmare. then start dropping sacred items and replace whatever we hoarded for 50 levs, with what we drop there. again keeping legendaries for aspects, to imprint on whatever best items found before entering torment at 70. rinse and repeat.
at that point itemisation will start to matter, but it’s likely we’ll have enough knowledge at the time not to be bothered by it.
Outside of some instances in D2 where some early game uniques were still useable for a long time, frequently replacing gear while levelling is a common occurrence in Diablo games and dungeon crawlers in general. It’s something to be expected not concerned about.
What MMO or game allows you to use the same weapon from 1 to max level. Please let me know because I’ve never seen that game before.
You are crying about things that no other game lets you do. The only thing remotely close is heirlooms from WOW.
That is extremely boring game design and heirlooms are not the best items you can get while leveling. They are just OK.
You are literally asking for zero progression. Why are you even playing this game or similar games?
this is the kind of stuff that im going to miss in D4
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