Maybe I’ve been living under a rock but I haven’t seen anyone talk about it.
Gear always drops with a lvl requirement equal to the character you are playing, which is pretty stupid when you think about it, it’s nearly impossible to save gear for an alt, what’s the point of saving a weapon with good rolls for my sorc if it has lvl 90 requirement, by then I will surely have something better or just as good.
Are the any conversations on this subject at all?
Yes, this has been often discussed. It makes absolutely no sense and unfortunately Blizzard didn’t address it at all during the “fireside chat”.
I’ve pretty much been against character level requirements for items in every game since EverQuest started to do it with Velious in 1999. It’s a pointless means on control.
By such itemization, they took out two things I consider most fun in ARPG. Trading and gearing alts with your main.
I dropped frostburn, I was happy as a clam until I realized that I would have to get my sorceres to 97 lvl to be able to use them.
and the worst thing. It kinda feels they are proud of it, they finally solve the IRL cash trading for items by sinking down the whole ship. Thanks Blizzard, You are top 
It’s part of the long list of idiotic decisions that have been made for this game.
One of the big parts of D2’s success is finding gear for other classes in order to incentivize alt creation.
In D4 not only you can’t do any of that but you’re restricted to items from your class with their very stupid “smart loot” system…
Sorry, to answer your post OP, I’ve been talking about this for months, but there are so many HUGE problems in this game that this somehow drifted into the low priority list when it’s actually one of the most major flaws
That’s exactly what I mean, this so bad it’s unbelievable.
It is unbelievable. Everyone is so focused on complaining about season renown that we’re forgetting the bigger picture.
This system where the item requirement is tied to your level is an absolute joke and needs to go, quickly.
item scaling is one of the worst parts of this game for trading and equipping alts. Makes no sense since the gear is no different that what can drop earlier. Should just have minimum level for sacred and ancestral.
Guys it’s your favorite Loot 2.0. Why are you so surprised?
It was one of the things that completly destroyed D3 but at least it was pretty well-implemented in D3 systems. Now we have D3 systems everywhere but they somehow want to make game w/o D3 ideology and that is just impossible. Cuz they will never work in any ARPG except D3(and you know that D3 was not ARPG but more A and less RPG then anything else).
Yeah it’s killed any incentive for me to play an alt. Sadly, I think it is deliberate on Blizzard’s part and not just an oversight. My guess is it’s an added encouragement to play seasons. If you can’t gear up on alt with drops on your main you may as well wait for season to just main that class you were going to alt. You’d be starting from the same place anyway.
Trading and gearing alts with the drops you find from your main gave the biggest replay value for most people in D2. Blizzard provided the stale repetitive end-game farming mechanics from D2 but without the two most important incentives for doing so. Without Trading and alt gearing you’re left with just trying to find perfect rolls for your main as the only real end-game progression.
yeah i think it’s their biggest mistake in this game. D2 “farming ideology” will never work with D3 core mechanics. I hope that they will realize it sooner or later and move this game either in D2 way or D3 cuz now it looks absolutely incompatible imho.
Because they dont want people with lvl 1 being OP out of season. Season 28 in d3 has a rank 1 mechanic that turns all items into lvl 1 requirements. Was pretty awesome to be honest.
But not in eternal mode
sounds incredibly dgsht if you have to waste 150h into leveling and not 2 min as it was in d3.
The funny thing is, if they dropped the smart loot system, they wouldnt need so much crappy bloat to dilute the loot pool.
It should be related to the Item Level instead of the Character Level.
Makes no sense that a 730 item has a LvL 100 requirement.
Smart loot in general is dumb, but people get really angry when an item drops with that stats that aren’t for their class. The best solution is smart loot on the class-specific items (smart for that class), only generic affixes on the generic items (and make it so that class-specific bases rarely drop for other classes). I think the bones of this system are there for D4, just need to restrict the affixes by item type rather than class.
For the item level requirement I think the best fix would be to just have a fixed level requirement that can be calculated from the base item power and caps at 75 or maybe 80 for 820+ item power. This is the power before upgrades.
When they first announced the system of scaling down item level requirement to your level when you find a drop I thought that sounded like a good solution to letting lvl 70 characters find lvl 100 items. But there aren’t really lvl 100 items. At best there are lvl 75/80 ones right now. So it’s more like it is scaling the requirement up, and that’s just dumb.
yeah just disable smart loot and allow trading and it will save this game for a couple of seasons
It was a seasonal mechanic.
Everyone knows if you can powerlevel to max the game is super boring after that. All reward, but no sense of achievement.
I appreciate my characters and the effort inout into them more with normal leveling.
No one is asking for Shako to have level 1 requirement. We’re talking about different tier of items like in D2 which have different stats and level requirements. Like vipermagi lvl 29 Titan lvl 42 or Arcane Valor lvl 75. Those are just examples
I could see an argument where sacred items are set to level 50 and ancestral level 70.
In another thread someone was talking about only rerolling only level 90+ gear. That is nonsense. If one has a great level 60 ancedtral (the current lowest ancestral level) that item may prove helpful for alts and your main.
In fact, with exceptional luck it may be better than the items that you find on your way to 90.