What a ridiculous bottleneck. They’re only obtainable in Helltides, the least enjoyable activity in the game, and they no longer come from scrapping items. On top of that, it’s not like you can just go farm Helltides whenever you want. The devs thought it’d be a good idea to create a painful, unenjoyable grind, then keep you from doing it when you finally throw your hands in the air and decide you need to do the worst activity in the game.
This is a great example of terrible game design.
it wouldnt be too bad if helltides were up at all times, it’s the “wait for a helltide before you can go on just a lil bit” that feels bad to me.
if i could just go hunt for some when i need em i’d be alright
*and then when your gear is pretty much set they just collect dust. it’s weird.
Absolutely, because you inevitably need crafting materials they limit to Helltides, but in the time period you have to wait before a Helltide is up, it’s easy to forget how badly you need the crafting mats. Then, after getting engrossed in something else, the Helltide is up, but you’ve already moved on and resolved to simply hunting down rares rather than crafting, and Helltides never drop good rares.
they’ve been a massive bottleneck for me while leveling, forcing me to do helltide just to reroll a few times per helltide
then when you get 100 you get your gear right once and you’re swimming in hundreds, thousands of them.
it’s feels balanced in extremes between leveling and capping
This is actually a false statement though, they still show up from salvaging legendaries. They are just a bit on the rare side.
On the other hand Fiend Rose is straight up Helltide only and still mandatory on rerolling legendary items.
But overall I have to agree, they can be a pain in the behind early on, but at some point it sorta evens out and then they become useless.
Guess thats the reason why i barely reroll anything while leveling, unless I find a piece thats going to stay. That way it stays at an extremely low amount of Helltides until later on for me.
key during helltides is to click all the clickables. forgotten souls are not just from chests. you can get them from the screaming ore and various other clickables. i can get up to 200 forgotten souls in a single helltide if im lucky and stay the whole hour.
I never had problems with such resources. I am sure I have at least 1000 each of these crafting materials., and I am like 99% done with my upgrades unless I find another rare with ultra perfect rolls. I got 1.2 billion gold now as well
God no, i dont dip below 300 ever… number keeps going up
i get more like 20 per helltide on a good day (usually more like 12) and i do click clickables. guess there’s something else im missing 
6-10 rerolls per helltide or so for me
*maybe youre talking about veiled crystals? that could be in the 200 range after a helltide yeah.
no the forgotten souls no mistake. veiled crystals i dont even look at that number its like over 7k no need to be concerned, not per lol just total i mean. i do keep track of my forgotten souls though because i only stay around 700-800
When you first get to WT 4 and are weak and need upgrades so bad its a terrible feel bad system. You need upgrades to beat helltides in WT4 as a newbie but cant upgrade until you can beat it. Catch 22. Even now I only got 50. Helltides need to be up 24/7 or more forgotten soul drops added. Not everyone wants to run helltides all the time.
Pretty sure most of mine come from salvaging. Don’t do helltides much and I never run out of FS.
Its only a bottle neck mid game between 50-70 after that you swim in them.
I have more than i will ever use, as do a lot of people.
No. There’s a bug causing some players to never get them from salvaging.
For people who continuously reroll and try new builds, there’s never a point where you don’t need them.
This severely slows the process of getting kills though, which is what you want if you’re aiming for all 4 chests containing living steel.
The random nature of how many resources people get per character is completely all over the place. To such an extent, that only specific individuals experience certain bugs. In fact, one druid can find 30 + Mad Wolf’s Glees, while someone else might not ever see one at all.
Consider yourself lucky, but if Blizz doesn’t address this, you might not be so lucky when restarting for the next season.
Further, if you’re okay with just mindlessly grinding boring content, you’re probably doing ever single Helltide and opening every chest along the way.
Another lucky one.
It varies massively from character to character.
Another lucky one.
Another lucky one.
I’ve been without them for a huge chunk of time and I’ve been level 100 since about a week and a half after the start of the season.
You guys act like this game gives the same gameplay experience to everyone, but this is a confirmed bug all over Reddit and YouTube. Some people experience it, while others, like you, don’t. It’s ridiculous to assume that the experience of others isn’t legit.
Yes but only because I mostly avoided helltides like the plague. And you don’t get anywhere enough from salvaging.
I’ve been doing a bunch more helltides recently and that mostly solved the lack of souls. Helltides SUCK when you don’t know where the mystery/steel chest locations are - they’re a lot more enjoyable if you google the spawn locations and know where to go. I recently learned that.
If you’re level 100 and are still rerolling hundreds of times you are using the wrong gear as a base. Even if you swap builds this shouldn’t be as big of a deal as you say. You should probably stop until the Occultist update comes out because I’m figuring you’re rerolling the same pieces of gear looking to get the exact stat you want and it can’t. That mechanic is in the game even if you have no way to see it. It’s kind of rough hearing you call everything a bug but this is your playstyle.
While I don’t agree with the idea that people can’t prioritize Helltides due to external reasons, I can at least understand it. I can’t understand how you’re at level 100 and completely dry.
It’s a confirmed bug, lol.
You’re probably one of those people who responds to a thread about lag and claims you don’t have any at all and you think their servers are great, completely failing to realize that server performance varies massively across multiple locations for a myriad of reasons.
Please show me the post from the devs saying it’s a bug because anything other than that is the opposite of confirmed.
No, I know this but most of those reasons are external from the servers.
You’re definitely the person that won’t take personal responsibility for anything. Always gotta be someone else’s fault.
Its not lucky. Do a helltide here and there.
If your rerolling every pc of gear you get that is a choice in playstyle and not a very efficient one.
I feel like these forgotten soul enchants should only cost 1 on gear below item level 850 or so.