I’ll put $20 on the updates being strange and befuddling.
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I have my last glimmer of hope… hope they do not crush it.
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Im impressed that people even still have hope at this point.
I expect nothing from S4.
A few changes in affixes and a new way of sorting/filtering items and maybe a better way of storing legendary powers.
But i don’t expect whats really needed for itemization which is a complete revamp in how they work and how they can be obtained to make the leveling process valuable and not feel like you keep changing gear every min or so, and still after all that keep feeling that you want to hunt gear at end game as an end game activity.
That is what made D2 so great.
D2 barely has an end game either but it has the itemization going for it which makes people still come back to it today.
That would do alot for D4.
Changing some affixes here and there is not gonna do it for D4.
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D4 is made for consoles and will be released on Game Pass 28 March. Dont expect the game to evolve to what you think it will.
Its a casual/friendly game.
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it may be a casual/friendly game, a lot of those types of games i really enjoy.
this is also a really really bad game.
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I expect some good changes but also another big bad one that I anticipate, so kinda have pre-prepared feedback for it
Think that chances are that I’ll have to do that, but will do so at the end of PTR rather than at the start or during
People on the forums: “this game would be so much better if we just had a PTR”
Blizzard: "we got you here’s your PTR "
People on the forums: “the PTR is going to suck”
It’s almost as if people just want to be miserable all the time.
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I’m going in with zero expectations. Will it be the most awesome patch/season that fixes the game and brings people back? Highly unlikely, as there are just too many issues with the core game right now to fix in a seasonal patch.
Having said that hopefully it’ll improve and move in the right direction as I feel most patches after S1 have been doing. It’s definitely slow going though. I also don’t think the expansion will fix the game either.
It’s D3 all over again, and in a couple of years, assuming the game comes into its own, people won’t care how it started. Now the opposite is true too. If the game fails and they only make 1 expansion, we more then likely won’t see a D5 either, and Blizzard will turn into a mobile game company instead.
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Itemization can only get better. Right now this game is not in a very good place in terms of loot hunt at all. I have one character at level 82 which is still wearing the first pieces of gear that dropped at level 60-62 when I went into WT4. It’s even still wearing some sacred items from WT3 on its chest, legs, boots and amulet.
Unique items drop from the target farmable bosses which are lower in power and with worse rolls than the random drops I have received while running vaults and farming tremors.
Two of the build defining legendary affixes that I need finally dropped at level 81 for me last night. Luckily the Uber unique level requirement was lowered or I would have abandoned this build long ago.
The seasonal mechanic is so alt unfriendly that you can end up with enough shattered stone to max out pets for 4 characters but only have enough iron to get half or less of the boxes you need to max it out forcing you into yet another thing you need to grind.
And they topped all that off with the gauntlet where you also need to refarm items to be competitive and mats to make potions to also have an edge. Of course that’s 100% exploitable also, but here we are.
So as far as PTR goes, it really can’t be worse.
THAT depends how much money Microsoft is making.
It is ALL about money now.
I think if the course stays steady as it has been, there will not be many people playing.
It is unfortunate. I have been playing the Diablo series since ‘98, but i think this is my last one if season 4 doesnt knock my socks off. I MAY give it another chance if the expansion is reasonably priced, but the way it is looking now, chasing that carrot is getting a bit tiresome.
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Completely agree. I’ll continue to play as for as long I enjoy it, completing seasonal objectives, ignoring Duriel runs, then waiting for the next season. Although I will say this will probably be the last Blizzard product I ever purchase, not including the expansions, depending of course. I definitely wouldn’t have bought their survival sandbox game assuming it wasn’t cancelled of course.
All good things must come to an end eventually. I’d say the good left Blizzard a long time ago.
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I’ve felt this way since WoW’s shadowlands expansion left me feeling at odds with Blizz.
I was in the Beta and watched them butcher the game leading up to it going live, cutting back rewards to extend the grind etc, adding time to the flight taxis, so you’d be stuck watching swirly lights for minutes on end, was sad to watch them literally sink their own ship in real time.
I blame Kotick for sucking the soul out of Blizzard, he destroyed my play ground, but he’s rich so it was worth it right?
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If you go into this campfire/PTR with a bad attitude you’ll like feed that monster regardless of the dog and pony show they present.
Let’s try and have an open mind till then.
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Thats not exactly true. Rob said they where “Simplifying” it during an interview. That could mean the introduction of horrendous D3 itemization to again further remove more arpg elements of the game.
We will see.
I have my 
ready for the campfire chat, the Karen’s will be venting on the forum as soon as the show starts.
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its always so entertaining but blizzard really needs to stop caving to the Karen’s
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It is LAST CHANCE for Diablo IV!
If it means getting armor related on stat rolls on actual pieces of armor or more focused items that don’t have an identity crisis with + ranks to 3 different skills than I could settle for D3 levels of loot.
As it stands only a few rolls really matter on loot anyway and we are basically trashing 99% of it as we did in that game as well.
Alot of arpgs have 99% trash items. PoE, LE, D2 all have way better itemization but almost everything that drops is trash at a certain point. LE itemization is so bloated you cant play without a loot filter.
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I don’t disagree but have to question this one tbh
It’s a simplified game with unfortunately more reduced difficulty than usual
BUT, it’s also anti-casual due to the excessive if not exhausting amount of effort required
If it were to me I’d say both bad decisions