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Enemies having “smart” AI is not fun, specifically them constantly running away and avoiding grouping.

Chasing down enemies running in all four directions is not fun.

Enemies constantly spreading out making the already small AOE skills ineffective is not fun.

We have been through this problem in S0-S1 when the last dungeon enemies would hide in some corner of the map and we had to waste time running around.

Please, prioritize fun. Making moment to moment gameplay tedious is not challenging or rewarding, its simply not fun.

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Your in the wrong game if you want fun - Dev’s are clear in their intent to make the game more of a grind - s11 is season of the fun police.

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If I understood this the fun bit is not taking down fewer smart enemies but mowing down hundreds of stupid ones?

Either works for me but I just want this to be clarified.

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What should they do then? Deleting enemies with no pushback is not fun either.

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OP how do you feel about the goblins running away from you? Should they stand in a group so you can one shot them?

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Special enemies with special mechanics are obviously different, but you know what you are doing.

Are you advocating for all enemies to have multiple phases? Do you want regular mobs that don’t drop any loot to have immunity phases like some of the bosses?

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Which one is it running away or immunity phases? It sounds like you just want to plow through everything on the screen with no effort or risk. Man, that is so much fun. Heaven forbid if we need to think about what we are doing.

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I think you want to play a different game if you want regular mobs to challenge you. Risk and reward are tied together, there is no reward for killing a normal goblin so why should it behave like a treasure goblin that showers you with loot?

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You’ve got that backwards. In 4 days, this game is going to have “smart” enemies. You’re the one who wants a different game… specifically the one that D4 is today. It’s not gonna happen. They did the work and D4 is changing. No forum post is going to change that.

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They’re not looking to make gameplay more tedious, they’re trying to make it actually exist.

I didn’t play the PTR, but the changes on paper look good to me, and obviously seek to inject actual gameplay back into the experience. Combat is much more interesting when you have to worry about target prioritization, positioning, cooldown management, etc.

We had a little bit of that when the game launched, before all of the power creep and balancing changes. You used to actually have to mange your potions, dodge enemy AoE, etc. Now, even B tier builds just zoom around and obliterate all enemies on screen with 1 button press, completely ignoring enemy AoE and CC because we’re practically invincible and permanently unstoppable anyways. When your combat based game is being (not entirely unfairly) compared to Cookie Clicker, you have a very large problem.

But don’t worry, I have no doubt that the usual will happen and the grossly OP meta builds will emerge, so if that’s what you enjoy, just copy-paste the FotM build and it’ll probably just be business as usual for you.

In all seriousness though, at a minimum you will still have all the skills and abilities that bring enemies to you; I don’t recall seeing any notes about those things being removed or nerfed. So whatever class skills and aspects you have, Kry and Lac runes, Wildbolt aspect, whatever. Use the tools that you have available to work around the problem!

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12/09/2025

Yeah well, the Blizzard D4 Team and Management better wise up and soon, and revert three (3) of their messed up and wrongful actions of ruining our hard earned Mythic gear for the 4th time, and taking away our earned Renown, and their shameful and rip off Battle Pass for a broken, buggy beta game we all paid for! Not to mention, after 2 years of broken BS promises to players, Blizzard has been warned to do the right thing many times and so far they have failed regarding Diablo IV. This time around it will be the tipping point and crossing the damn line!

I don’t care about any changes in the game, which don’t seem bad at all, but I do care that my hard earned Mythic gear and earned Renown in the game is getting taken away from us, and making our Mythic gear useless legacy again without any proper compensation whatsoever and that is totally unacceptable and wrong! No Blizzard game or any game I ever paid for and played has ever taken away my hard earned gear and made it useless for any reason, or taken away my game progress. What the hell are these D4 Devs thinking!? It’s NOT right or normal to do this to players for a game we all paid for!!

I been a Blizzard player and customer for over 21 years, and this is one thing I will not take lightly, and it is not about the money with me - it’s the principle, and these damn broken promises and deception, and taking away what players earned in the game and ruining it for a game we all paid for is just wrong! Not to mention, Diablo 4 is still in buggy beta land and the Diablo 4 team has NOT kept their promises for the past 2 years since the game came out, and that again is NOT acceptable! In saying all of this, I am not the only one who feels this way - many D4 Players are at the tipping point with the Diablo 4 Devs and their broken promises - and now the D4 Dev Team is planning on taking away our hard earned Mythic gear by making it useless legacy and also our hard earned Renown in the game without any form of compensation to players and that is a MAJOR MESSED UP ISSUE, especially when our Mythic gear is being ruined and made into useless legacy for the fourth time, AGAIN, by the inconsiderate and ungrateful D4 Team and their Management!

I am NOT here to be screwed over AGAIN, and constantly lied to and mislead because the Diablo 4 Team can’t get their damn act together as they try to whitewash and cloud the real issues while leaving the core game buggy, broken and still in beta land. Unreal!

I HOPE YOU’RE READING THIS BLIZZARD D4 TEAM AND MANAGEMENT: I just want to be very clear, if you cross the damn line again and take away our hard earned Mythic gear and ruin it again for the fourth time after you said you wouldn’t do it again, and take away our hard earned progress and Renown for this broken, buggy, unfinished beta game you sold us 2 years ago, and fail to revert your rip off shameful Battle Pass that gives players 500 less platinum and less rewards for the same price thinking we are fools, I can assure you a formal complaint will definitely be filed, and I will escalate this matter to your corporate office at Blizzard Entertainment and Microsoft Games management, and if nothing is done to resolve these serious issues and willful fraud, I will escalate the matter even further as permitted by law, because at this point there is only so much BS I am willing to accept and this is the tipping point for me and many other players who are tired of getting mislead and screwed over for a game we all paid for!

No other Blizzard game or any game for that matter has ever screwed over players as much as Diablo 4 - and to take away hard earned Mythic gear that took TIME to acquire and our renown progress in the game after two years of BS broken promises while the core game remains in buggy beta land, this is clearly a very bad case of false advertising and willful fraud against D4 players who paid for this game, and at this point enough is enough!

I never experienced anything as bad as this with any game, and while my Girl and I have enjoyed playing Diablo 4, we do NOT enjoy being mislead, lied to, and defrauded out of our hard earned rare Mythic gear, Renown and our TIME and money! If we knew these bad things were going to happen before buying Diablo 4, I would have NEVER purchased this game! EVER until you got your act together! Do NOT make matters worse, Blizzard D4 Team!

With that said, YOU, Blizzard D4 Team, need to do the right thing for all D4 Players who paid for this game and make sure you either revert all of these three (3) bad and wrongful actions affecting all players, or provide a fair or better compensation for our loses in this game, or give players the option to get a full refund and that will resolve this issue altogether. Otherwise if you don’t do anything to address these three (3) serious issues you can expect a formal fraud and civil complaint being filed and having this matter escalated to your corporate office as I mentioned before. This is NOT a threat, it’s a promise! And just to be clear, no "Terms of Service Agreement or anything else protects any U.S. company from willfully defrauding and misleading consumers, and so far that has been the case with Diablo IV since it came out over 2 years ago.

I just hope I don’t have to file any formal complaints because it won’t be good for Blizzard and Microsoft. I prefer to see Diablo 4 shine and get out of buggy beta land and for players NOT to keep getting screwed over and having their hard earned in-game items and progress constantly get taken away by the irresponsible and neglectful Blizzard D4 Team! Fixing and Improving the core game → Diablo IV ← should be Blizzard’s first priority not screwing over players! Let’s hope the Blizzard D4 Team realizes this sooner than later.

Many D4 Players, and myself included, had enough of the BS lies, deception and screwing players over constantly every damn season, and to keep breaking promises to players for the past 2 years and failing to fix and improve the core game while taking away our hard earned rare items, progress and renown we earned and grinded like hell for is just outrageous and damn wrong!

If you, Blizzard D4 Team, think these things you have done and continue doing are okay, think again because they are NOT okay! Like I said many time before, YOU, Blizzard D4 Team, can do a lot better and you should soon! All Diablo IV players deserve better than the crap you have done to us! NO MORE!

I cannot be more clear than this and feel free to read my previous posts and comments on this forum. I even shared helpful suggestions as many loyal players have and always act fairly despite your screw ups, and yet you, Blizzard D4 Team, have the rude audacity to continue misleading players and screwing players over for no good reason because you can’t get your damn act together for the past 2 years and finally fix and improve the core game, as your own former President Mike Ybarra said you should be focusing on fixing the core game, but instead you just keep screwing players over and breaking promises for the past 2 years like it’s no big deal, well it sure is a VERY BIG DEAL and you need to correct yourselves and soon, Blizzard D4 Team!

  • This is outright wrong and very bad, and it cannot continue, especially for a game we all paid for and continue supporting for the past 2 years!

I hope you do the right thing Blizzard D4 Team, because there is NO need to keep misleading players and screwing players over. You can do better, Blizzard D4 Team and Management and I hope you do soon! - JJ -
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Can I get a tl;dr ?

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chillax, are you bothered by this?

campfire : so you’ll notice their behavior is no longer predictable. They’ll be more dynamic in how they respond to you in battle.

basically it just means the monster is going to die in an unpredictable way, and the way their corpses lie on the floor is more dynamic.
:face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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you didn’t try the ptr? through my 1-60 leveling, it basically feels like the monsters are more agile. elites with powers will prioritize forming up formations to combine their strength to strike the player, pretty much copying those concepts in chinese animation about cultivation.

but the density is lower. i guess this will alert many players to complain, and eventually the devs will need to buff up the monster density.

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Why would you continue to play and support a company when you feel this way? This is massive hypocrisy. Why would you keep playing a broken game for so long? That doesnt make any sense unless you just like being overly melodramatic and hypocritical.

I am sure they are really worried about your scary “formal complaint” lol.

Oh boy, you have no idea what you are talking about. You should probably take a break because this crash out of yours is really sad.

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From my experience on the PTR they really aren’t that smart and grouping then up was not an issue at all. unless they drastically changed things since the PTR.

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12/09/2925

You are nothing more than a paid shill and a harassing troll on this forum and you have been warned many times before to stop harassing people on here because that is all you do and it is seriously questionable.

I made myself clear and I definitely know what I’m talking about harassing Troll. I will keep voicing my concerns about these issues until Blizzard Management does the right thing for all D4 players, and if nececessary I will escalate this matter to Blizzard Entertainment and Microsoft Games Management, and if nothing is done to resolve these outstanding issues after that then I will file all formal complaints as permitted by law and escalate this further, which I have never done before, and this would happen only if Blizzard fails to do the right thing in this case because this is no small matter.

In case you lack knowledge about U.S. Law, NO U.S. company is protected when they act in a willfully misleading and fraudulent manner, especially when they take money from consumers, and NO ToS, ToU, and EULA agreements between consumers and gaming companies will automatically protect any company from willful wrongdoing.

FYI: U.S. companies are not immune to prosecution and legal liabilities for willful and misleading fraud just because they have a Terms of Service (ToS), Terms of Use (ToU), or End User License Agreement (EULA). Any clauses that attempt to disclaim liability for a company’s own intentional fraud or fraudulent misrepresentation and wrongdoing to consumers are generally void in a Court of Law, and that is a fact.

Unfortunately, that is clearly the case when it comes to Diablo 4 and no whitewashing BS from you or anyone will change that. If you don’t like it that’s you’re problem.

However, just because I am expressing my outrage and disappointments with the Diablo IV Team, which is clearly valid based on what has been going on since the game launched over 2 years ago, it doesn’t mean this is the path I want to take. I have been a Blizzard customer and player for over 21 years, and my only goal is to help the Blizzard D4 Team realize how much better they can be and for them to take proper actions to fix and address these issues. These wrongful actions and gross neglect by the Blizzard D4 Team relating to Diablo 4 and all players who paid for this game is NOT necessary. They can do better and should do better for all D4 players that paid and continue supporting the game.

I would like nothing more than to see Diablo IV shine and for the Blizzard D4 Team to keep its promises to players and to STOP screwing players over, and despite all of the BS the D4 Team has pulled on players in the past 2 years, I am still hopeful the Blizzard D4 Team and Management will eventually come around and do the right thing, but I won’t hold my breath either.

As I said many times before, the Blizzard D4 Team and Management can do better because all D4 players who paid for this game and continue supporting it deserve better!

I made it very clear, this is the tipping point for me and the majority of D4 players that are genuinely frustrated and outraged by the wrongful actions the Blizzard D4 Team has taken in the past 2 years and they need to correct themselves and do the right thing for all D4 players who paid for this game! We had enough!

With that said, I stand by everything I wrote relating to this major issue with Diablo IV. - JJ -
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I wonder if the OP has a favorable opinion about D2.

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Go file a lawsuit. My god the entitlement and ex GF syndrome some of you have. So you dont like the game. Move on. Nooe, you guys gotta keep coming back crapping in our house because you don’t like the furniture we enjoy.

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You CLEARLY failed to read and understand what I wrote. You sound like another whitewashing Troll on here and people like you never help make anything better. If you don’t like the facts and what I wrote, it’s you that needs to move on. I stand by everything I wrote :100: percent!