If itemization is redone, is it acceptable if they delete all your stash and characters?

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Because if they did a good job when re-doing the itemization, junk affixes like “+damage to bleeding” or “+ %crit chance to injured” better be gone for good, and therefore completely removed from the damage calculation formulae… Leaving them in there is not only taking up computation power, but also asking for conflicts with the new set of redone affixes.

So since those effects are removed from the damage calculation formulae (think of these as the “Laws of physics” in the game), the old items have very high chance of either containing the now-defunct affixes, or does not have the new attributes to make sense under this new “Laws of physics”.

Therefore they need to be removed and start from clean slate.

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They’re not going to delete anything. If they decide they want a “reset”, they will just release a patch / expansion that obsoletes all existing gear and makes the new “better” gear conform to what they want it to be.

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They won’t. That is not going to happen in a launched live game. They already have Seasons where you have to make a fresh character and get fresh items if they want to do a complete overhaul of systems. There are also expansions which can serve as a “reset” to move players to a new system.

You don’t own the Battlenet account, game code, items, or anything else. The EULA covers this situation and you agreed that they can change the game, including removing items, chars, etc. at any time and don’t owe us anything.

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They won’t DO that, but they could if they wanted. They usually limit it to changing how game systems work like attack speed or something. Then older items become obsolete.

Yes, access to cosmetic looks you paid real money for are not something they would take away unless the person violates the EULA contract (cheating, hacking, etc) and gets their account closed. That, or financial fraud.

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Itemization is far from fine. Idk what rock you’ve been living under since the launch of the game, but there has been 0 impact to how itemization is.

RMAH? LOL you must be joking… Wait a minute you are because you couldn’t even spell money and auction correctly. Seriously “oction”?

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why would they delete your characters or items, it makes no sense, the problems is the affixes, all they would do is change existing affixes with new affixes on existing gear. thats it. nothing else needs to be done. definitely wouldnt delete anything though.

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Sometimes they will change existing gear, sometimes they put the new version of the affix on new drops only.

Examples - in D3 if a Set bonus changes it changes on old items too. If a singular affix like attack speed on that item changes, you need to drop a new one to get it. Has to do with the static nature of the set bonus vs the randomized range of the other affixes.

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They wont delete your chars or your items.

What would happen if they change how items work and whatnot all that would happen is that your chars would get somewhat screwed because new affixes and whatnot will get changed right, so you might not end up with the stats you want. But knowing D4 you can get the “new” items for your char in about 30 minutes.

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i played a whole 3 hours of d3 on release day and never again, but both of those sound about correct. they’re not gonna come and delete all items on all your characters, then, for some odd reason, also delete your characters, that now have no items on them anyway, then go ahead and say “cool, do it again”

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Thanks for reassuring that they won’t delete Stash/characters.

The point of this post is like a thermometer to gauge the community’s (albeit the very limited size this post can reach) current views & reaction, IF(Big IF) this happens in the near future.

And judging from the comments and likes so far, it seems the community thinks it is a valid option, even a favorable option if it would make the game better… But I guess this is a closing time-window, before people are able to get their own copies of Grandfathers and Shakos.

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No, they certainly won’t. They do wipe the Alpha, Betas (esp early ones), and PTRs, but once a game is live they don’t wipe everything you put time into. I mean, they COULD, but they don’t. They are not that daft.

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Hey man! it’s a free country and you can sue for anything as long as you can afford the lawyer fees for losing. Provided you can find a dumb enough lawyer to file it for you.

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I believe Blizzard can do whatever it likes with the game. You agreed to it when you signed up for playing the game. They delete characters all the time already (in the forms of bans, perhaps not a delete per say, but you get the idea).

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Even if they wouldn’t, I’d do it myself. Current itemization is atrocious.

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Diablo 4 map/scenarios with Diablo 2 itemization is the fórmula.

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Who cares if they wipe, there’s no place to stash items anyways. At the same time, it’s such a boring and bad beta release, I’m not expecting anything until hundreds of dollars of Expansions come out. By then poe2, last epoch, or any other game will overshadow Diablo 4 and what blizzard has become.

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if they have to rework the items and all the damage calculations and maybe add some better buffs like how Diablo 3, for example: Experience gains per kill or percentage on either weapons or armor; leveling up a brand new character for the grind to see the new changes wouldn’t be so bad. There honestly needs to be a massive change to the way items drop as well according to you’re currently leveled and the enemies you kill, just now I killed a level 43 dungeon boss, and my reword is a level 34 legendary?! makes so little sense, I was given literal garbage that’s only use is to be salvaged, which doesn’t even grantee the materials that you want in order to give your items preferred aspects for making stronger builds, which is another issue, enemies should be given more the chance to drop these materials in order to be less pressured on salvaging all the legendary items or selling them. Sure it would be better if they instead gave you weapons scaled to your current level much more often so that you can junk the older less useful one, but currently it feels more bugged with how the drops work. There’s a massive list of changes this game needs with its items, drops, difficulty adjustment options (because having only 4 options and 2 being locked until a tedious grind to level 50 is just terrible, again Diablo 3’s torment system to me was the best way to work the difficulty, plus better rewards with gold, experience and further in when the game gets to easy you go up the next stage from hard to expert, you’ll level up so much faster and even to Master and Torment 1 you’ll earn a massive experience boost that’s like 300% more experience and brand new items you can only get at level 60-70+ giving me more reason to keep that difficulty slider going up when it gets to easy with the enemy scaling with me, and getting items that make me overpowered, I can then earn more better items the more I level up and the game with be exciting again when I see a legendary, I can finally feel I earned a level 60 legendary when I’m also level 60.) I know this is a lot more then about the current topic above but I do feel it’s helpful feedback on how to make the game feel less of a slow awful grind and more exciting to create a brand new character when you can choose better difficulties to earn that bonus EXP on top of Items with buffs the experience gain for a few simple methods. a new character with discovering the new items and the way the stats work better feels a lot nicer that way to me and less of that grind would encourage me to make another character to try other classes and builds, thus more playtime on the game and replayabilty to come back when I want to play the story more seriously with less of the distractions from before. It’s gonna take time and a lot of a hard work to rework the entire game and the library of items, but most of the items are pretty junk anyway, if they focused on making some new ones that you can actually earn instead of buying it with real money, I feel that gives players who aren’t WALES, much more rewards for playing the game and having a good time, it would build so much more positives to the game and community, just making more people actually wanting to buy the game and thus more money for Blizzard, stuff sucks but hey, if it can make the game better, I feel that’s the right approach that can work out a great foundation for the future of this series. Also stats in general need an overhaul 1 point of Strength meaning 1 point of Armor is completely useless when you have actual armor creating higher stats, and Strength should account more for damage, not only armor.

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Delete your account. It is still below garbage. Too many affixes, the whole imbueing rares with legendary aspects is garbage. Complete loot revamp is coming and you are the 1st person to ever troll and say itemization is fine.

Accept it. Loot will be fixed.

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The old gear will still be there. Just like in D3 where some of us have OG drops of set items and you can’t get that stuff anymore. They are account bound and thus worthless.

Same will happen with your existing ER characters. They will be sitting on useless gear unless you decide to scrap it for gold/parts.

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fun fact:
In the Blizzard ToU/EULA you agree that you do not own your game (you are renting access to it) & that at any time for any reason they can revoke that.
and that the game terms may change at anytime.

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If they actually fix itemization, I’m fine with losing all items and such.