ok? can we talk about the fact you didnt find any other place since “week 3”
i mean i can only assume we are talking about the base game. :S
Na I played VoH, t4 and all the above, stopped at pit 120ish on the SB, just got bored. It’s not a bad game in general just much better out atm that I wanted to play, no other forums are this fun so when I need to waste time I come to see what was said and stir the pot
Why does this dude keep responding to me since I put him on permanent ignore? I ignored you because I don’t care what you have to say. So there’s no point in you responding to me because I’m not going to read it.
is it a writen law that a season has to whipe out chars? In WoW you would have content coming in a 3 month cycle where you get new stuff without reseting the char. It is absolutly possible to make a season without a char reset.
They could just add all seasonal content to eternal also and would be about the same thing, if they did that tho imo it would kill seasons because everyone would just play eternal, they all try to defend seasons till eternal players want the same content lol
actually we like the reset. it resets the economy and gives everyone a fresh and fair start each season. we enjoy that. if you dont want to reset then play eternal
For ARPGs with seasons, character resets are a staple because the game is designed around short-term, fast gameplay loops. By comparison, MMORPGs are designed for long-term progression, with content and expansions that build on each character’s saved progress, as MMORPGs expect players to spend far more time in each expansion or update.
ARPGs like Diablo allow players to reach endgame far more quickly then MMORPGs do. It would be the equivalent of watching some one play FF7 from scratch, versus watching them play Final Fight on an arcade machine for example. It’s designed in a way to let players experience the full game in a short amount of time, and repeat this activity as many times as they like until they stop.
MMORPGs, on the other hand, spread out a steady flow of content to retain long-term player engagement, making character resets both unnecessary and disruptive to the format. I’ve used this comparison many times, but it holds true when comparing Seasonal ARPG’s to an MMORPG. You’re building a smaller model of a car when it comes to the Seasonal Realm, you’re building a real car when it comes to an MMORPG, and you will spend far more time with that character on average, then you ever would in an ARPG like Diablo.
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And get reset anyway.
Why is it importnat to reset the economy? I don’t get behind it. Why is it so important that other people lose their stuff. If you say it is importnat for oneself i would counter that with the fact that you can allways reset yourself with a new character. So the reset of economy is not for yourself, it is that people want other people tom start from scratch.
But why. To race to max lv? That race wins exactly 1 dude and he is probably a no lifer/progamer(no offense). There is literaly no reason why normal players need a reset every 3 months.
Your analogy lacks for the fact that you can allways reset and play a new char. The only thing seasons do it “FORCE” people to play from scratch. For no reason other then to bloat out playtime. People complained about the long road to max lv so there was a 40% xp buff. Don’T tell me the “journey” to max lv is so liked, people literaly complained about that enough that blizz made a massiv xp buff. That is not happening when a minority complains.
i got 1500 hours on my main barb in D3. i would a much more if RoS would had killed the game. I had a clan with many people playing a main char for countless of hours.
I don’t see how ARPGs are not there to have a long term character. I think it makes more sense especialy the way D4 is structured. The “fastfood” gameplay of D4 is actualy so lacking that many people quit playing after 1or2 weeks a season. I don’t think that was intendet from blizz. That is why we have a massiv LV grind now. (Which i like).
I myself skipped 2 seasons entirely. And i had the biggest fun in D4 with release of VoH but even that was gone in less then 2 weeks. This game has elemental issues.
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This is perfectly fine, you don’t have to enjoy it yourself, that’s why they have an Eternal Realm for people like you. I’m only explaining how the genre has worked almost since it’s conception. As I’ve stated before I have no issues with adding Seasonal Gimmicks to the Eternal Realm, but what I don’t want is to take away the option of a Seasonal Realm for people like myself.
I think we can have both, I just don’t see the D4 team implementing any such changes.
You are absolutely right you can, but it’s an inconvenience to have to keep track of your money, materials, items, etc. to make sure you are actually starting from scratch. That is the appeal of Seasonal Realm to myself and I imagine to others. Not to mention since we share Paragon points, that too is completely reset, which it wouldn’t be if I just started a new character as you so suggest.
The fun for me personally, is starting over brand new, with quite literally nothing. I understand not everyone thinks this way.
I never once claimed this. Again I just told you how the current genre works, not that it was right or wrong, or what people like or dislike. Your opinion is just as valid as my own though.
I agree with you, and I also understand your position, you don’t like resets in general, and that’s perfectly fine. I’m only giving my opinion about the resets and how the genre currently works at the moment. I don’t personally find a fault with it myself, but I can understand when people say they don’t like to lose all their progress every season.
I have nothing further to say on the matter, as I can’t change the current situation for you. Only the developers can, and as I’ve stated, it’s highly unlikely they will do so with this particular game. Maybe in Diablo 5, or maybe some one who makes a completely different type of ARPG will make exactly what you’re looking for. Anything is possible. I wish you luck in your endeavor though.
Errr… What do you mean reset all quests? Reset the side quests we work so hard to unlock the renown? Or reset the Altar Of Lilith.
Bro, making this heretical suggestion will make the angry folks in the sanctuary tie you on a stake and burn you alive 
You do know however that with each new season you have to farm renown again with the current system?
Also,
I didn’T suggested to farm renown again btw, i suggested to reset the quests so you can do em again. And that you get rewards actualy worth somethign doing the quests.
Well so far the eternal realm wasn’T exactly eternal.
I understand that. I don’t even mind starting from scratch and i think ultimatly the problem on D4 is that the season journey just lacks excitment and challenge.
As long as 95% of the content stays in the “cookie clicker” department i am just bored out of my mind with it.
You don’t have to. It’s a forum to chat about the game. I do not expect anything as an outcome except for the chat itself.
The reason i actualy came up with was that i started the game yesterday. I played around in the open world with my barb. Did a few quests and very very quickly the fun got snuffed out. Cause i was there thinking about how to “improve” my char and the only answer was. Run Pts. excesivly. Then i quit the game. I would just enjoy to play on the open world with most of the stuff happening there.
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You should know I refer to the renown which give extra skill points and paragon boards.
In the sanctuary, people were put on the stake and burnt even not fully express their heretical opinion.
You’re on your own with this one. the vast majority of players want seasons.
Also pay no mind to the usual suspects trolling forums. They live and breathe these forums for post count.
I play only on Eternal Realm. What Am I missing from Season 6 that isn’t available on Eternal? I’ve always had a hard time finding out what’s different.
Its simple really, Eternal players dont WANT to play seasons, that IS the point of the eternal realm player. If you fuse the two, it wont entice the primarily eternal player to play seasonal content more. It will push the eternal player to a game that changes LESS often, not more.
Because me personally as an eternal player and a seasonal player, If the seasonal mechanic is bad, I would like an option to opt out while still playing the game (while still being able to play a character that I know is strong or theorycrafting a new build without the entropy seasonal content brings) If you fuse the two I will lose that option and Ill just play a different game that provides the consistency that I want.
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I don’t think you understand my concept cause frankly your complain makes no sense actualy.
You do not need to “refarm” stuff in my solution. You keep all chars and all items. Everything. The only thing reseting are the quests, so you can do em as an activity.
Season theme is just part of the world, you do it or not. Kinda like helltid. The world is big enough if 1 biome is used by a season for 3 months there are still 5 other huge biomes to hang out,.
You can replay the campaign by creating a new class in Seasonal.
Your suggestion to ‘reset’ the entire world (including quests) is bad and here’s why:-
Ask yourself this following your idea, by Season 20, your world gets reset - renowns, quests, Altars of lilith, NMD dungeons aspects, discovering new areas, waypoints…would you wana do all these again while going through the campaign?
The whole point of Seasons was to sell the battlepass.
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i never said all thiose things get reset. I made it clear i am only talking about the quests.
No thankyou, forcibly resetting any kind of progress in the eternal realm would defeat the purpose of the eternal realm.
I do understand, let me help you understand since you didnt the first time. Keep your seasonal crap out of my eternal realm.
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