I watched the QA with DM and Ghazzy with Johnathan Rogers and the whole other game live stream

I would say in a way, PoE 2 is not really a competitor, in that most of the people who were expecting a quality game from Diablo IV have already long since left, so there is no real competition. PoE 2 will just take those players in since Blizzard has no interest in them.

What I mean by that is that; look at loot drops post S4, it’s always mainstat + max hp no matter the slot. Then you’re pigeonholed into Tempering to add all the complexity and fun to your item. I don’t like that. It’s a deal breaker for me because the loot hunt is more important to me than crafting. I want items to drop with better, more complex affixes.

But, anyway that’s 1 thing that’s a deal breaker for me. The other ones I’ve mentioned are equally bad for me, and Blizzard doesn’t seem to care in the slightest.

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Oh I see ok… Yea I’d be ok if they revert that and add those cool affixes back as loot drop, and remove tempering altogther. And we just go back to hunt for loot again without needing to temper…

But blizz added in temper to artifically prolong RNG which in itself is really not 100% well received. Some like it, some live with it, some hate it.

I for one is the neutral , I don’t love it or hate it. I can totally go back to no tempering and just kill for chance for loots that is fine.

But I do think dropping more quality loot is important, and there needs to be sufficient amount of loot as well.

Well, that’s the problem regarding loot drops; it’s always going to be mainstat + max hp no matter what. Even if it’s GA, it’s most probably going to be exactly that. It’s too annoying and it kills the fun of the loot hunt.

I didnt play much of the first one but after the disrespect I’ve felt at the hands of the Diablo 4 management, I’m driven into the arms of another game. Don’t know if it’ll treat me right but it’s gotta be better than this

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at current state, it is even worse. My personal experience only - I have this season, most of the GA ancestral I have got, mind you not many, cuz drop rate really bombed, are GAs on elemental resistence…like fire, or lightening …1 GA on ele resis … seriously ?

given how rare they are, you get that to drop… how exciting …

Tell you what. 3GA drops and it’s:

Mainstat
Max HP
Life per 5sec

This is the highest probability for a 3GA right now. Are you happy with it?

Oh man I totally forgot about the life per 5 second thing jesus LOL… NO, I have seen that at times as well god awful…

absolutely not. So, but the good news is, they are addressing drop rate for ancestral for next season. Meaning, if drop rate is higher, now that they won’t get rid of these garbage affixes and switch them for something new or exciting, at least, you will get more ancestral drops so the chances of you getting something you were hunting for is a bit higher.

I don’t want to derail the conversation but according to my experience during S5 which the drop rate was 10x more compared to now; it’s not getting better. The thing is, the affix pool is hard capped at a very limited crappy pool, especially on weapons. You can see each item’s affix pool during enchanting. As far as I understand, it’s the same affix pool each item has when it drops.

I would encourage you to go pick 1 item of each slot and go check their affix pools in enchanting. This will give you a good idea of what to expect from loot drops.

  1. Yes and that’s awesome. It will only be in the last tier of leveling (from around 90 to 100) and serves 2 purposes: making the achievement bigger by rewarding best preparation and making a difference betwteen the dudes that simply died until they made it and the ones that actually prepared to make it.
  2. You mean having a purpose instead of dealing with endless RNG? Sure! And it is not science: you upgrade multiple times an item. If one of those upgrades goes wrong, you can chase currency to try to fix if the item is godly and you wanna fix it really bad. And you don’t have to kill Duriel 200 times dialy for chance for it: you literally will have activities for that purpose.
  3. That wasn’t what he said, but I get that you didn’t get it. I will make it simple since you are a D4 player: If you want to go to X place in your map you get 4 routes to get there. If you fail those, you will have to look for a different way to go around, which might take 8 - 9 maps instead of 4. And remember that you choose how difficult each map is.
  4. Lilith is a bad scripted fight. You die to things that sometimes are not even there. Boss fights in PoE 2 will be simply tough in the sense that they will have deadly attacks and you will have to avoid them instead of facing the entire fight while you spam Quill Volley.
  5. Imagine playing a game for the numbers shown instead of the progression and the sense of achievement after a rough fight…

Diablo 4 convinced you that you are a weak and dumb player that should never look other games that is not Diablo 4. This game told you ‘‘You are not that smart, man. Keep playing D4 because other games are just too complex for your small brain. You have to evade attacks and you are not ready to press 2 keys at the same time.’’

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It has build diversity i.e. you can make anything near viable/good if you invest enough effort/time

I am more than happy to deal with the difficulty if it means I can play what I want to play and not what is deemed to be the meta for the season by the devs.

Hell, the POE UI makes me sad and I am even willing to put up with it just so I can have some build diversity.

No that is fine, there is no sense of derailing at all. My OP is just there, we don’t have to discuss that we can discuss something else it is free discuss anything here really as long as no insults gets thrown in haha.

Yea I do look at the possible affixes during enchanting, by the way enchanting is weighted in case you are unaware. Tempering is not weighted apparently, but i am 100% sure enchanting is weighted. Some affixes are designed to show up a lot less frequently than say main stats.

There are some similarities in terms of those affixes for sure. I mean I guess you just want more , different, and meaningful affixes to spice things up added to the gears. Which is a fine suggestion !

Yeah, for me it’s essential. Right now, it feels like it’s 30% your unaltered item and 70% Tempering in terms of affix importance for any build to come online.

If I was to summarize it, I would say “buff loot drop affixes, nerf Tempering”.

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well I wouldn’t go that far to say that I mean… I can see you are probably a more veteran arpg player from your responses.

But for me I have only play D3 and never touched PoE 1 , and then D4 which I find pretty good LOL, honestly it isn’t that bad in my opinion. And I go read up on PoE 2, it is like, yea no I don’t think im enjoy the game long run.

There are a lot of ideas in PoE that is good, I spelled them out as well in my original post, I think D4 would be awesome getting inspiration from some of those and make it more simpler version of it would def be super cool. But a lot of the other stuff like death penalty please don’t ever come to D4 lol

I understand why those points are worrying. It is not a brain-dead game and I belive that the game’s Dev will make changes if those points cause huge negative impacts. The real issue or difference is the dev team’s capability of the delivery instead of just endless stay tuned.

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It probably won’t cause any issues though for the PoE vets… they are fully aware of it and expecting as much. I think some are even worried that PoE 2 is getting too simple LOL… anyways…

To each their own. Obviously a lot of people here love brain dead gameplay without content which is called Diablo 4. Imagine every season since season 1, we basically beta test the seasonal features for a month because of all the bugs and duping, then they will only have the time time to fix it when we are already done with the season. Lmfao. Enjoy the rest of the seasons D4 shills.

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It has build diversity i.e. you can make anything near viable/good if you invest enough effort/time

This is not historically true of the POE series.

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I hate to blame people for the state of the game. It just seems to me that Diablo is Trying to cross and ocean, they get lost return to port and go in another direction. In the end they get no where.

It will continue this way untill they get a new capt.

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If you are not tired of killing Duriel for months, Helltides being obliterated by even your evades at this point and you don’t care that all you chase is a 2M damage difference after hours of farming, you are good.
It is not about being a veteran player, it is about feeling that this game has nothing but more damage and RNG to offer.

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