The build template is based off macrobioboys S4 bone spirit necro, but they are essentially all the same.
For the record I have better gear than what’s shown, I just haven’t fully masterworked it yet. I have almost fully GA gear, at minimum 2 GAs on the legendaries and 3 or 4 on the Uniques.
So it must be amazing right? All the steamers were showcasing it, and the top necro spot for a while was a BS build.
Yea no, not so much.
The build is fun. Picture Goku and your power level is 9000, the kamehamaya shotgun obliterates everything. I regularly see 350 million damage. The only problem is the survivability sucks and quite honestly I’m struggling to push past pit 80. On top of that it’s just slow, so very slow.
I switched back to my garbage tier golem build and did a 4 minute pit 90 with my eyes closed. You basically click a button and the golem kills the entire screen.
It’s kind of frustrating that anything besides the meta builds right now basically just sucks. Same with my blizzard Sorc, it’s just not even remotely competitive. As always necro and sorc survivability is the biggest issue.
I guess we’ll see what happens with the massive nerf to holy bolts but I’m pretty disappointed with how lame this build feels given how long it took to assemble.
Anyways if you have any thoughts or suggestions let me know.
From all the content creators I was watching for ideas for Necro builds from the PTR as well as after launch of the patch, Bone Spear necro falls off pretty hard. Now they may get a buff come S5, but couldn’t guarantee it.
Sorry you had to figure it out the hard way. Wasn’t necessarily my favorite build if we’re being honest, but I wouldn’t mind it getting some love in the future either.
Bone spirit is the one I made and it’s probably the most ridiculous build ever in terms of the gear you need. There are no half measures, you need to 275 essence to proc banished lords and you need enough CDR to get the BS down to 8s.
The stupid part is the damage output is absolutely obscene, it’s just you die instantly if an elite even looks at you because you can’t use Shako with the build and I feel like that item is a basic requirement now for Necros and Sorcs due to the flat damage reduction.
Both actually. If you mean the pipe bomb build it’s extremely fun, but lackluster later on. Bosses are more of a pain with the build, but it can clear trash fairly well up to a point.
Depends on the build you went though. I experimented a little in the PTR and nothing came remotely close to minion builds.
The bone spirit build basically obliterates bosses but struggles hard with survivability and any kind of disruption to your BS not criting or hitting a wall/missing and your basically just stuck standing around for 8s doing nothing.
When it rolls it rolls hard, it’s super fun at say pit 70,but anything above that and the elites are just so freaking annoying and deadly its not worth running.
The new patch has some changes to sacrafice so maybe you can sub in Shako and still have the build work, we’ll see on Monday.
good or bad I use my own builds. I don’t care about meta builds and never watched a single streamers video… these people just want one thing… followers to make money.
well of course it’s not easier then minions. minions are overturned.
as of bone spirit there are actually two variants. one drops CD to 0 so that you stand in melee range and do tratatata like it is some kind blood surge build. I play it and can speed farm pit89. highest I have pushed is pit103. the main problem is indeed survivability. but it’s still worth it IMO if you don’t want play minions and blood surge is too weak comparing to this.
and then there is variant that bumps essence to 275 and nukes slower but for higher numbers. this one I think have easier time with bosses as you don’t need to stand in melee range.
the good news is that in incoming patch both damage and survivability are buffed (more damage from sacrifices and better bone storm) so potentially it will be even better. either way being able to quickly complete ~90 pit I think is pretty good already.
folks that do these leaderboards sometimes fish specific boss for literally hours, the guy in top on sorc mentioned on rob talk that it took him 8 hours to fish right boss and complete p140. not something that regular gamer will do just to get higher pit level. just something to keep in mind when you see 120 it does not mean they can complete 120 any time or any attempt.
So what? It does mean they can complete pretty much any 110 any time they want, and probably most things up to 120. The point wasn’t “he can do 120 so it’s fine”, it was “he very comfortably did a 120 so the claim of being difficult on an 80 is almost certainly a pebkac issue rather than a build issue”.
my point is that even if you have ideal build and learned all the boss tricks, it could take you 4 hours to get that 120 pit completed because that’s what leaderboard folks do - fish specific bosses/mobs to push higher. and yeah 110 pit sounds more realistic, but also some bosses are complete pain on bone spirit Necro (specifically sharpshooter and ice shaman), so you could easily fail them even on pit105.
PS watching the video just confirmed this. no fire aura mobs, no poison puddles spawn mobs (these one shot easily Necro in close range), and boss is the one of the easiest you can get (big weapon guy), it’s not sharpshooter or shaman which would be failed attempt. it’s a perfectly fished pit 120.
I never liked bone spirit build, I dislike the ability and play style as a whole.
I hate the fact that it empties your resource all in 1 shot
I hate the fact the spell travels so slowly to hit target
I hate the build with a passion.
With that said, I am a huge fan of bone spear build. I been playing Bone Spear since Season 1 and only switched to minion this season. I still like Bone spear the most for now. If the mid season patch upcoming balance Bone spear to become viable again, I will make another Necro just to play Bone Spear. Because, I spent a lot of gold and resources on my current shadow minion farming pit 90 , I am unwilling to just respec it all and redo everything.
question how does one spend billions on a build? you jsut need the abilties, and tune the gear and its a “build” yes extra stats to the build would be nice but you dont have spend billions to make any build, abilties,and gear for the build to be a build, doesnt require millions or even 925 gear
Its their job to produce crap builds,because of ‘‘content’’
There’s no secret underdog build that works.
Just because someone made video clearing 140 Pit doesnt mean build is actually viable . How many tries it took to complete that pit? You dont see that,you see only completion , which doesnt mean build works.
Its either meta or hf farming pit 60 throughout whole season.
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question how does one spend billions on a build? you jsut need the abilties, and tune the gear and its a “build” yes extra stats to the build would be nice but you dont have spend billions to make any build, abilties,and gear for the build to be a build, doesnt require millions or even 925 ge
If you want it work properly you basically need extremely specific gear pieces."
You need a helm with essence regen and a GA max resource. You need a focus with CDR and a GA max resource. You need a chest with a GA macabre and essence. You need boots with a GA bone spirit and essence. You need a banished lords with a high roll and hopefully some GA and blood moons with a GA dmg reduction.
Then you need extremely specific tempers to make the build feel good to play like decrep size, corpse tendrils size, and curse duration.
You need the CD on BS to be around 8s and enough essence to keep procing banished lords.
I have all that gear plus crits on the right things and it still feels terrible to play.
I’m not making a cry baby complain post, just trying to save people some time if they want to try this. It really isn’t worth it.
It took me 760 million gold to roll +3 exploit . Already had +3 malice and 8% lucky hit (and that was one item only)
If one was to buy same that neck with same stats,they would need few billion gold and i guess some people would rather pay that amount instead of losing nerves with the enchanter.
If i knew the outcome,i would’ve bought the item.
And that was the first neck this season with +3 and passive and lucky hit. 11 characters level 100 , 10-13 hours playing session every day since release.
Considering Blizzard intentionally made most necks not to have passives and GA items to have elemental ressistance or some other useless stat , people are willing to pay anything in order to get the item they want.
Also considering i am playing literally half of the day since season was released,one would think i am fully geared on at least 2-3 characters with tripple/quad GA items. Out of 11 characters only one has 3x/2x GA items . My other characters are horribly geared,even tho i am spending most of the day farming helltides.
People arent getting rewarded for their time spent in game. There’s no guarantee someone who play 20 hours a day for 3 months will have better items than someone who plays 2 hours a day.
I used to follow a logic ‘‘if you loot enough items,you are bound to get what you need’’ which is proven NOT to be the case.
I saw post of a guy who killed Uber bosses around 200 times was it yesterday of the day before idk . 0 Uber Uniques.
When season started , my first 22 Uber Duriel kills,got 2 items. Shako and Heart of Selig … not even tormented kills. I was happy i cant lie , but i was also mad because last season i killed same crappy boss over 300 times and got nothing and it took me MUCH longer to farm all mats required…