Summoner necromancer is completelly garbage from the beginning, they die too easy and dont do damage compared to caster.
I think everyone who choose to play necromancer choose the class for the minions and the flavor.
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They are only bad for some early levels. Just stack armor and watch them shine.
You can get a key aspect from a dungeon that makes them extremely tanky. It’s the stacking armor aspect.
They inherit 100% of your armor.
You want armor on every piece of gear you can get it on and you want all the survivability talents from the skill tree for them.
You also want all the armor nodes for you from the paragon boards. Do not take minion health, minion life, or minion resistances.
Just take armor for you. They get all of it.
They also scale off your character’s life so get life on gear as well.
Yeah it’s lame, minions are completely weak and useless in this game in terms of being a primary dmg source, no builds are currently clearing with minions as their bulk dmg dealt in high tiers without carrying it from some other spells and non minion centric effects such as Blighted OP aspect or just powerful bone spears in general.
Some minion builds are “clearing” content, but there’s a very real difference between just clearing stuff and what should happen. Basically, minion builds are the slow kid that finishes running around the field three times like all the other kids, but he’s finishing way after everyone else and he looks like he’s dying by the end of it.
Ghostwolf, you are the problem. People are clearing T31 dungeons right now with minions where mobs are 6+ levels higher and taking no damage.
The way you itemize your gear and spend your skill points and paragon points are EXTREMELY important.
He will no doubt be pushing higher than T70 in endgame based on what he is doing right now.
Who are you even talking about? Some random streamer that you stalk online who plays minion build into 6 lvls above and that’s evidence that there isn’t an issue?
I’ve cleared over 18 levels above, but that’s irrelevant to the point that I was making that were still the slowest kid in the class and it’s not even close. Minion builds, pure minion builds that just rely on minion damage are by FAR the slowest in the game and they get practically nowhere without carrying them with Blighted procs or Bonespear personal dmg from the necro or some other gimmicky spam nonsense that makes it impossible to even define the build as a minion build anymore and not jus a “hybrid” build that’s literally carried by the non minion half.
Stop instigating and spreading misinformation, I’ll be honest I’m still not 100% sure if you’re a troll or just stupid, but either way, nobody likes you.
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You have no clue what you are talking about.
I made a cheat code for minion build post just for you so you can learn how to play the game.
I suggest you go read it. I’m sure you are doing 80% of things wrong.
Minions are “fine” if Necro minion is the only thing that you’ve played.
Minion necro can play the game, but you are playing 10 times slower, dealing a crap of damage and being carried by others on every single event.
There’s a reason the higher you go the less and less minions you see on events.
Good luck farming sigil XP with Minion Necro because it will take you literally forever to upgrade those sigils.
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The reason is no one has attempted to min max them. Someone is doing that right now.
Prepare to be wrong.
hell yeah brother. Kripp is the man. i also did dungeons with mobs 10+ levels above me.
At the moment I’m just looking for all possible stats that make minions do more damage
xx% more damage against CC enemys are not working, seems like.
They glyph of control absolutely does work.
It is a massive damage increase.
thats good to now. and then i guess just INT and generic %Damage on the items right?
Oh and attack speed seems also to work.
but its a bummer that damage against CCed enemys are not working. we are missing alot of damage because of that. imo that should also work with minions.
so i guess… i reroll almost all items now 
In general, minions are just a handicap you decide to play with.
Your legendary drop per hour, your elite kill per hour, your sigil XP per hour will always be at least 10 times lower than other classes unless they introduce changes to the minion performance.
Yes, you can clear the content around your level or around 10-15+ times your level, I made the capstone to TIV at lvl 61, but super slow. You can do whatever content is in the game except farming sigil XP and gear efficiently, which is basically the endgame.
Fighting against the in game math is pointless, minions are a mere utility atm, they stun, freeze, chill, taunt, make vulnerable and generate corpses and essence, but they deal no damage or remove aggro.
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Yeah stack int, vuln damage, crit damage, attack speed, CDR.
Um no they do a lot of damage. If you build correctly. Look into blighted aspect. That aspect directly improves their damage.
I have everything into minions, currently on the way to max out the cult leader paragon board and also picked Control glyph, Wither and on the way to Flesh Eater and Scent of Death.
Llv 68 on TIV and little in the screen dies until I start spamming blighted corpse explosion + howl from below + shadowblight + aspect of decay + blighted aspect + gloom + terror + fueled by death which turns my 4K damage to around 8K with blighted corpse explosion building up to around 20K per tick to anyone in the pool while my cold mages (the ones that apply vulnerable) deal around 1.5K per hit and the reapers around 500 per hit.
The only thing I’m lacking is the Ring of Mendeln, but for the rest is about it. I’ll get better gear and do more more damage, but minions will still be around 10% of my total output.
And my whole build turns around minions, the moment they die to the fireballs, it’s time to run because I don’t even have a basic skill on my bar. It’s skels + golem + army of the dead + mist + decrepy + corpse explosion.
Please stop posting this. He said this in speculation, there is no official word from blizzard or testing to back up this claim.
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have you tested by any chance, if item stats like “20% more damage against slowed enemys” are working for the minions also?
I’m trying to find sources that can confirm this right now because I’m not sure myself
What’s your highest completed nm tier using a minion-focused build?
Yup. And other classes are clearing content with mobs 30-50 levels higher than them with similar gearing.
Necro is the weakest class in the game, and minions are the weakest spec for necro.
Can you play the game with them? Sure. Its possible. That doesnt somehow make them good.
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I was summoner necro from level 1 and until after capstone dungeon to unlock tier 4.
But had to change a bit into tier 4, they do no dmg there and die too fast