How tuned to you have to be to take down Uber Duriel?

She’s pretty easy, downed her fine, on my custom incinerate build :smiley: at level 89

Useful as always our fellow wanderer. :smiley:

that pretty much will be the issue sadly. while the build is fun to look at, it isnt really that nice on the fight. if you insist on playing summoner necro, you should def go for mendeln. Get enough lucky hit on your gear so you have a solid corpse supply on the fight too as your minions will suffer :wink:

also, if you die again dont waste the summoning mats, pretty much everyone will help you on the fight.

if you need help, heck reach out to me and ill throw in another round of mats =)

I’ve converted my 100 Necro to bone spear. Just about got all glyphs to 15. Have 70 resist on all elements before potions/elixers. Probably going to give it another try once my last glyph is to 15.

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Seasonal or Eternal ?? This makes a load of difference. Eternal is WAY harder as you do not have the cheesy vamp mechanics to help.

70 percent poison resist, some healing sustain, decent life and armor.

Easy.

On eternal. I think i had 6k armor, 70 percent poison res, minimal self healing, life of around 9k and was able to beat with pulve bear (bad single target / non overpower build) and jusr survive off the potion drops from mobs and duriel.

I’ve got level 15 on all glyphs now, 16k attack power, 6k armor, 12k life, and 70% on all resistances. Surely that’ll be good enough?

It’s more about sustain and surviving, than it is about the damage.

Just make sure you have some innate healing, otherwise you’ll have to play for potions, which is what I was doing.

Took me a couple runs to learn that the mini bosses that spit crap, drop a potion each. The small larva, if you kill ALL of them usually nets 1 potion as well.

So outside of the gated potions from the health drop from duriel, there is plenty of potions.

I typically wait until level 80 to dance with Duriel. 3 characters to 100 so far this season and they all handled him okay at 80.

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Should be I had no issues with it on mine. I was popping a poison resist pot to push me to 75% because why not?

I just changed my builds because i got tired of the single target problem with pulv. To be fair, I facetank with subterranean and can carry 4 people groups easily.

I have nado and having bothered doing a duriel rotation yet with that build so don’t know how it would fair.

Probably could go back and do the overpower build with the pulv and it be a ton easier, but I was playing for potions, I would get down to around 3-4 from 9.

bone spear for sure is a strong choice, make sure to have a lot of crit tho.

as i said, if you need help, hit me up, ill throw in an extra round of mats

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There is no shame in doing it with a group it is kinda fun actually. Unless you just want to know that you can beat it solo. I get that, I did it too.

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People do “free carries” with your matts all the time, if you want to rotate with me, on eternal, send me a friend request. I don’t mind carrying a whole group and paying in.

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In my testing, you need to at least put out 2 million damage a second, have 70% poison resist, and around 12-13k armor buffed (7.5k armor with disobedience aspect on amulet or equivelant damage mitigation) to solo Duriel.

As far as the fight goes, you need to prioritize killing the 2 adds he spawns so they don’t add to the damage you are taking. That and it is best if you could get directly behind him when Duriel emerges from underground to avoid the knockback attack he does.

I would suggest the practice dummy in Kyovashad to see if you have the DPS first before attempting him.

I often argue that D4 is a gimmick build playground, meaning that targeting 2 things will often turn a potential A tier build idea into a C tier build in actuality. To that point, it’s pretty much undeniable that once you hit certain content a split build will always underperform. Someone else replied that you should sacrifice your minions for bonuses, IMO that’s the way to go. Although a pure minion build can be good too.

Using Blood Surge myself, it’s a monster. It’s not at the level of combo point bugged rogues or bad math Ball Lightning builds but as a working as intended build it’s very good. Definitely shines in speed farming and NMDs the most but still viable on single target bosses. From what I see most with other BS Necro builds are not maximizing power where it needs it. For example, you’ll see builds using the minion blood surge echo unique which is speed clear item and that’s something that blood surge is already good at. Then they build Corpse Tendrils which is a great critical bonus… except until you get a specific unique after lvl 85, the strength of blood surge builds -Overpower- is unable to benefit from it.

I’m not sure your gear is the best for a change of builds but I recommend switching to the Sacrificial Overpower Blood Surge Build. It’s kind of one of the easiest to gear builds since you only have to stack +Overpower damage and +maximum Life wherever you can get it. Then paragon boards are a bit simpler due to not getting benefit from most of the options on them. The Vampiric powers help with fortify uptime so prioritize +damage reduction while fortified over +barrier generation as a defensive priority. I’ve got +4,900%~ Overpower Damage so it’s pretty easy to get (make sure you use the sacrificial aspect on your 2h), 23k Life. When Fortify is up I face tank solo Duriel without any problem. Damage reduction is my best friend. Also, my armor is embarrassingly low, I don’t want to share it. I’m sacrificing the benefit of armor so I can keep wearing a few perfect rolled items.

I don’t think this is true. I don’t know exactly how much damage I do. It’s very noticable, but is it 2 mil per second sustained, I don’t think so. Maybe it is, I don’t even know exactly how much hp Duriel has, but he dies in like 60 seconds or less once he becomes targettable the first time. If I string a few crits together then he dies before he ever submerges, that might be 2 mil per second.

My armor is below 10k buffed and I stand in front of Duriel in his poison just so I can slap him in the face. As a blood surge necromancer, the hardest part of this fight… well most annoying, is running to where he comes out of the ground when I pick the wrong side of the arena.

I say 2 million per second as that was roughly the overall dps I was putting out with my WW Barb. My WW Barb was ticking between 1-1.5 million buffed and unbuffed around 600-700k. I didn’t do the math but I would say an average around 2 million per second would be a safe bet.

As far as Armor goes, I could be off, but with a base of 7.5k armor with disobedience on neck and 70% poison resist, I was still taking a beating but it was manageable. Some instances, I was close to dead if I got stun locked by Duriel’s AoE knockback stun and the adds were up. That said, I never died and I was able to finish the fight after a min or two.

After perfecting my WW build, Duriel dies in like 10 seconds or less.

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This is why I wish there was a combat log I could parse. It would be so much easier to figure this stuff out. :sweat_smile:

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Never ever ever ever do Duriel Solo. Getting a rotation is super easy and gives you 300% more chances at ubers and items. Someone is always there that is awesome as well and can carry party. It sucks but you absolutely are wrecking yourself doing it solo esp if you are not op.

Even if it was a feature just for the target dummy dungeon in Kyovashad, I would like Blizzard to at least add a dps meter that parses damage per second, self healing per second, and damage mitigation. That way there are some numbers players can shoot for in their builds when communicating what it takes to take down X boss.

While this is true, some players would like to know if their build is capable of doing the fight solo or not. It is more or less personal bragging rights that won’t matter to anyone but the person attempting it. Self gratification as it were.

I don’t do the discord thing. How would you recommend me finding a group for Duriel runs? I’ve currently got mats for 9 runs in my inventory.