How To Improve Tree of Whispers

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I really like the tree of whispers, but the rewards are a little lackluster as it does not do any one thing better than other facets of the game. You get more mats if you target cellars in certain biomes, you get more xp running normal dungeons (will be better to run nightmare in season 1 with the teleport) and you get more loot from helltides and nightmare dungeons.

Current findings based on my play is that I am getting around 25-40% of a level per tree of whispers cycle (10 grim favors). I am also getting a few rare mats such as crushed bones or paletongues, and maybe a sigil or two if I pick a chaos bag.

The problem: I think this is okay, but since everything else trumps the rewards, there is no reason to focus tree of whispers.

The solution: I would propose adding two new items to the game that do the following:

1-Orb of Whispers: The orb of whispers would re-roll an item in its entirety, giving new stats to the item and always making the item have the 4 max rolls. This is amazing as it adds more value to those really bad rolled but near max Item Power rares that we get, allowing us more ways to min/max and get the perfect items for our builds.

2-Orb of Visions: To play along with the Orb of Whispers, once you get the 4 stat rolls you want/need for your build, there is nothing we can do to bring this item up to the peak. The orb of visions will solve this by re-rolling the item values on each stat roll. If you have Strength between 150-200 the orb of visions will re-roll the range of this and the other 3 stats. It will take extreme luck to get all 4 stats to the max, but it is a really fun and satisfying gamble that also does not run the risk of bricking the item entirely.

3-Wild card suggest: Orb of Hatred - has a wide variety of effects, from completely destroying the item, to adding a 5th stat roll, or a second implicit mod (the base mod of the item types). This is a complete gamble and can completely destroy your item, but if you hit a 5th stat roll that further benefits your build, it would be amazing! The drawback is that after you apply this Orb, you can no longer modify the item in any way shape or form, it become a locked item.

What are your thoughts to the suggestions above, how would you fix The Tree of Whispers?

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I’d rebalance points given, it should be 10 points for dungeon because they took so long etc., also at least 2 points for killing specific types of mobs (killing 20 trees takes alot of time)
Remove the 10 points limit, I want to go to the tree with 100 points and get 10 caches at once.
Make events available all the time in all regions, remove the time limit, just make them refresh after 1 hour when you complete them.

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I really like this part, allowing us to stack multiple turn ins is a far better flow than the current system we have!

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Then you’ll have too many items for your inventory when you do a turn in.

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Yes, the artificial time gates, I hate them with a passion, only reason of why I am not playing Lost Ark.
Devs think that adds longevity to the game somehow…

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Just bump the chances for unique drops tbh.

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That’s why there’s a vendor and a blacksmith next to the tree :wink:

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I would like guaranteed tree events in helltide. They can overlap by chance, but I would rather it be guaranteed.

A small icon on sigils that a tree is active might also be nice. Just something to highlight them when I pick my next nightmare dungeon.

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Also, spawn less missions at once, but spawn them more often, this way probability of meeting other players in some areas will increase and will speed up the process

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Yeah, I think the best answer is just to make whispers the best way to target farm uniques.

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I concur. A little bit like helltides lite

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The rewards are commensurate with the effort.

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The only reason i do tree of whispers is because it seems to have a very high chance to give a paragon glyph. I’ve gotten one every completion so far.

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I wish I’d stop getting legendary pants when I select a cache for gloves. Would be nice if they’d just fix what drops in the caches.

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Too much like POE.

Don’t need anything from the bald man’s nerd spreadsheet simulator infesting D4.

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What world events are in PoE?

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Orbs are in PoE.

Don’t need anything from PoE in D4.

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can the tree even drop uniques? :skull: did a ton of whispers and got not a single one

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At least give a guaranteed sacred legendary.

My last 3 hand ins gave me NOTHING… no legendaries, no horse stuff… NOTHING USEFUL…

I stopped doing Whispers… Helltides is faster and I can get 2 x mystery chests and at least I have guaranteed 4+ legendaries in a run.

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It’s too late for that. The Dungeons with map affixes is straight out of PoE. I agree somewhat about the orbs part though. Not that I don’t want something from PoE. Just I’d prefer not to have something so powerful dropped from something so easy to achieve.