Help Barb get fixed

[Conan-1354]

Bug Report: Barbarian

2H Sword Technique and Berserk Ripping do not proc cooldown reduction from the Harrogath chest or Disembowel glyph Enhanced Rupture and Fields of Crimson are bugged, not applying the full bleed damage, but healing the enemies Unbridled Rage doesn’t apply the full multiplier damage Enhanced Challenging Shout removes you from a Fortified state Conceited aspect does not apply a damage increase while a barrier is active. Steel Grasp does not apply bleed with its direct damage, cannot be assigned a …

If we keep this topic at the top with tons of comments, complaints, examples, and suggestions, maybe we can have an impact? At least some sort of acknowledgement?

Power in numbers, mfs. Go!

[NineMikeMike-1327]

My concern is that when they revert these bugs that barb will go back to being OP, and then we’ll get mega nerfs again. Probably end up weaker than we are now.

Barb is in a decent spot as is, I hope the other classes are balanced around us.

[iedynak-2767]

So I’m sorta casual player but was enjoying Barbarian class. I don’t know what happened but as of today the game for me is unplayable - every time my character takes damage she is LOSING fury… Last time I played yesterday, after the nerf patch, and it was okay. I don’t understand what’s going on.

[Kasceis-1904]

Barb needs a buff very badly.

[Bonemancer-11621]

1. Take a look at all Major Barb Skills, Paragon Legendary Nodes, Glyphs, and Uniques.
2. Make a “Tier List”

Unbridled Rage for exemple, overshadows all of the other final passives. Walking Arsenal Wants to work, but it’s always clunky. The other passives are junk.

Shouts feel (almost) mandatory, and take a glyph and 2 aspects. They have to rethink this.

All uniques are badly designed. Seriously, it’s the one of the weakest parts of the game. I just can’t get my head around some of the choices.

All Wepon Mastery Skills and Brawling (aside from shout) need to be looked at, somehow. They either feel unreliable ,or clunky, or weak. The long cooldowns play a part on that.

Legendary nodes aren’t good enough.

[Conan-1354]

Please post in the thread I linked in the OP, guys.

[SgtCreamSoda-1185]

Walking Arensal would honestly be fine if they just made the buffs last about 2 seconds longer. The biggest problem with it right now is that it’s very limiting to what skills you can actually use, because stuff like Leap or DB has too long of a CD without resets or stuff like that one Leap Aspect, and even then it feels too punishing.

And yeah they need to take a long, hard look at Barb uniques. 100,000 steps shouldn’t autocast it, it should be something like “get a free charge /reset the CD of Ground Stomp”, Overkill would be great for DB if the stats on it weren’t actually garbage, Gorh’s still has AS for some inexplicable reason, etc.

(Actually is AS not working with WW even intended behaviour? Because I remember in D3, where AS was actually a really important stat for AS and that was by design, it’s seems odd to go back on that.)

[OmegaBlood-1351]

We have been screaming about the unique Rage Chest being messed up for over a month now, maybe longer. I personally posted 4 or 5 times about it. They need to remove the lucky hit and make it proc off something else. Then it would work on all builds to some degree and great on 2 or 3 of them. it’s a Class specific uniqie and should be good to great for the Barb wearing it. The aspect needs to proc off some kind of crowd control, direct bleed, stunned, Critical Strike maybe if they think it’ll be too strong even though it wont be because the Barb is the worst class in the game when it comes to needing and maintaining it’s resource. And they nerfed resource again for whatever reason anyway… Anything but Lucky Hit or Slow(slow is dead because of Hamsting being a wasted skill on the skill tree now… anything you hit one time will instantly be completely immune to Hamstring. That is how bad and irrelevant Hamstring is now.)

[Abomb247-1301]

I was adding to this thread then felt like making a thread in GD. However I’ll post here too.

@Abomb247-1301

I’ll address the problems with Barbs in a few stages from leveling. How they have no build synergy, so they don’t scale as they progress like other Classes.

Barb has an atrocious leveling experience it’s not only slow but obviously not fun. For starters lets buff Basic skills and you know I’m going with the iconic Frenzy ability.

Currently it’s 22% dmg (buff to 50%)
Currently 2% dmg per level (buff too 8%) Seriously 2%?

• New Frenzy Aspect - Blazing Speed (Frenzy stacks now last 8 Seconds and grant 10% movement speed)

Bug note - IAS caps seem to be in place for Frenzy stacks where they don’t ramp.

Next many skills need to be condensed to add synergy and skill options. Shouts are too many, required and don’t allow for room for Barb builds or diversity.

So we would condense War Cry and Battle Cry into 1 skill granting all the benefit. Now in this design goal is where we address synergy, scaling and builds. The next Legendary is key.

• New Legendary - Synchronized Voice - (When Casting a Shout the Opposite Shout will Cast afterwards)

Which will now allow you to have ONLY 1 Shout on your Barb and you have the ability to cast both. Druids have this ability with ALL of their skills and why they have fun builds and synergy.

Iron Skin redesign - Barbs should be stead fast defenders preventing damage, Iron skin doesn’t live up to it’s name. It should prevent damage not give you a barrier after you been walloped for most of your HP.

• Iron skin now gives a Barrier based on base HP and the duration is 8 seconds long. This will also help with Barrier build option which currently Barb doesn’t have and the addition of more Barrier gen as a stats in 1.1.

Next I’d like to address CDR which Barbs have no good way to reduce CDs so they are clunky. It takes perfect gear and massive efforts to make a build function. They are pigeon holed into mandatory aspects and Glyphs which some of the changes help change above. However lets take this a step further.

• New Legendary Aspect - Counter Offensive (When Casting Iron Skin you now Cast a Shout and when you Cast a Shout you cast Iron Skin)

This will give a lot of synergy, mitigation and allow for different Glyphs and Gear/Affix choices. You can now start to utilize the Weapon Arsenal system that we haven’t been able too up to this point.

I would redesign the Weapon Technique board to function like Druid Boons. We literally mastered these weapons using them. At no point should we NEED to have them equipped. We should be able to choose 4 Techniques from out Mastery of Weapons.

Now for the big design change and this is coming from a long time Tank player and Barb original when I started playing Diablo 23 years ago.

Barbs have NO UNIQUE WEAPONS SLOTS!! So they have no flavor. I’d allow in the Duel Wield spot for the use of Shields. It’s just weird for a Barb to not be able to use a Shield and this would add more Affix and build choices. Another slot for Thorns, Crit or buffing the synergy of a build. Not to mention Blocking.

So you know where I’m going with this. New Unique item for Barbs

• Storm Shield (10-20% DR, 10% Total Armor, 100% Damage to Main weapon,75% blocking, 2500 Thorns)

This now can introduce new Shield Glyphs and actual Unique builds diversity and combinations.

Now for the more controversial take on Resource Management. I think every Class should start with Full Resources and we should have Resource Regeneration. There is a stat called Fury Regeneration and it’s actually not in the game. It’s in the character sheet though so add it. This also places a much better emphasis on stats like + Max Fury.

How this helps with gameplay is the start of running out of the Town or Dungeon you always have enough resources to cast your ability then it’s your job to maintain Fury. Not build it. This adds far more depth and fluid gameplay while making other Affixes important in builds.

This is just a start I could keep going on however these changes would solve some of the significant problems with Barb design from leveling, synergy and scaling.

Thanks

[Guts-6167]

I want to ask if WW close damage has been fixed?

[Abomb247-1301]

Apparently it’s mostly been a myth that it didn’t work due to Supressor mob bug making people believe that WW was snap shot distant. However that isn’t the case and test have been done.

Test done here

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[Adriel-11832]

Are you doing a NMD?

Some of them cause the ranged enemies to drain your resource (fury)

[Guts-6167]

Oh wait ATTACK SPEED? Wow that is smth new.

Meaning the GOHR was a good glove?

[GrayCrane-3495]

We? Gtfo, kid.

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