Guys what did you do with Barb?

First of all, I love the full weapon-loaded brawn.
but I’ve only had problems with rage or the damage since the start.
I found it to be very slow to play, I’m constantly drained of rage, it takes too long to recharge!

The whirlwind is felt to be over after 1 second and consumes so many resources that you can leave it out and instead have to use the “Hammer of the Ancients” to kill anything at all

Please dear team
goes over the barbarian again and makes him a little more resource efficient and faster. The stone is just too stupid to play like this and I don’t enjoy it

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early game fury is hard to maintain…
once you get more aspects and paragon, it gets better and eventually overpowered…
i did bleed, thorns barbarian for early level and swapped to WW…
thorns are free damage and dont cost fury… take defensive skills and iron barb elixir and just walk everywhere while mob dies…
bleed thorns can get to end game but WW is the better build…
but thorns barb is probably king in PVP

I’ve got a level 35 barb.

I maxed him in the beta too.

You’re not gonna like what I have to say.

Ready?

I have unlimited Fury and can spin to win forever without any Aspects or legendaries that enable it. Like you can do this out of the gate without any items that enhance it.

I have Frenzy + WW, War Cry, Shout, WotB and Leap.

The misconception here is that the basic attacks are the primary fuel for fury generation. It’s not. That’s the supplement. War Cry gives you Fury. Leap gives you fury, the shout that causes the taunt gives you fury when you get hit.

If there are elites I can spin forever, if there is a group of dudes, I can spin forever. Dude has no issues with fury management.

You’re suffering from diablo syndrome. I.E. there are a ton of variables, and you need to understand all your selections and choices, and you built a brick rather than making choices that work.

The game is fresh, and I don’t have any dps leggos or +skill rank gear, so I can’t really say. My DPS feels a little low for World Tier 2, but I also have trash gear; but nothing is a struggle except the strongholds…

I wonder what it’ll be once I get some strong leggos and I start min/maxing.

Melee characters are always harder in game like this, because you have to face tank things to get anything done, this means you either have to be exceptional at playing, or you have to have exceptional understanding of itemization and rank choices when compared to ranged characters that can just fire from the distance.

If you could just face tank, there would be no difficulty in the game. Diablo is supposed to be hard. You’re supposed to use that difficulty as a barrometer of power and validation of your choices. If it’s easy, you’re doing things right, if it’s hard – you’ve got to re-evaluate your choices.

Really all the characters are like this, but sometimes synergies between skills and builds in general are more obvious to certain people. I think the game is too young to evaluate DPS efficiency, keep in mind there are a metric ton of affixes and stats to juice up; gems, aspects, paragon boards, lilith altars, like – there are a ton of ways to gain strength, and you’ve got to build it and seak it.

I know Altars of lilith don’t see powerful with stats like +2 attribute… But, when you add them ALL up; suddenly they start moving the needle.

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okay then, can you show me the skilltree ?

Why not experiment and figure it out for yourself?

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Barb has no build diversity, choose bleed or spin, pick every shout, that’s it. You are forced to use every shout because fury generation is non existent.

Players are making the class work, but make no mistake about it’s, it’s not in an acceptable state.

The idea that a class needs multiple legendary items just to be usable without feeling clunky is absurd.

But we are going to pretend it’s not over here. Lol

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I am lvl 30 buy have rend/ww/leap and ancent which is enjoyable.

I only have 2 legendaries but their aspects make WW do more dmg and have tornados appear every few spins which does a set dmg and go outward and around randomly.

I dont have unlimited rage but i generate it with leap in then shout then WW which does generate rage with one of the skills/aspects i have but is not unlimited and is determined with amount of mobs i am doing.

It is hard to say for barbs till lvl 100 and max tier dungeons how it will play out.

I can def see gear aspects is a major buff and will more than likely go through 100s of buffs and nerfs as i can only assume some will be abit OP and some not so much.

Wat?

Do you even play barb?

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Level 41, was there more to your questions or are you about to tell me to go farm legendaries and make this god awful base class palatable.

Every build is the same stuff, stack shouts, choose whirlwind and spin. Or choose rend and bleed. Or do something stupid and pick Hota lol.

explain to me how hota is stupid?

I lvl as hota. Got the codex from scosglen. Had a great time.

Hota is VERY powerful.

Speak for yourself.

Barb has plenty of build diversity. No one is forcing you into a shout build play style. Put on chains and maelstrom with leap and go have fun. Or try kicking bad guys through barricades and structures and watching them explode… Try playing the class for yourself instead of relying on other players build advice. Builders are only doing what you should already be doing, which is playing the game and testing out what works for your play style.