I understand why D4 has them - nowadays players don’t want to think too much - but having Always On those very eye-catching colored arrows telling me this item is better or worse than the one I have, is really diminishing my decision making. A toggle on settings is all I ask.
it makes having prominent damage, speed DPS, armor values on item useless, if i’m not meant to even look at them but at a green arrow.
do a simple eye tracking test, with people like me who would turn off this feature and you’ll see how impossible it is to ignore it.
Careful decision making and weighing of pros and cons of my newfound item is one of the best aspects of a game like Diablo. Don’t take it away from us, please. (but allow beginners and busy people to have it)
The actual values mean nothing when you are playing a game that relies heavily on synergies with your builds.
You will need to look at affixes and gathering stuff that will support your current build. And sometimes that means NOT equipping the legendary you found just now, but keeping the rare.
And marking them “better raw value” does not absolve you from reading what the actual item does and how it fits in your build.
They provide a good guide for the player that just wants to smash monsters and get loot without thinking about anything, but there is more depth to itemization and affixes than D3.
I’m a min/maxing stat nerd, but my brother just wants to drink beer and smash monsters at the end of the day.
No, what I am saying is, that they are not the end-all-be-all of item comparison. I looked ate EVERY rare I found even when I mostly had legendaries equipped.
After all, there might be an item that is better. But if I see a “green up” item, of course I am gonna look at that first, b/c…better numbers?
Just don’t rely on it. Take it as a hint and it doesnt hurt anyone. If you are dumb enough to base your decision solely on a better armor/dps value…well. Tough luck.
It may have felt like that in the beta because most items you could get were very simple and don’t think some stats could even roll below Ilevel 400. But it’s not anywhere near what you describe after level 30 or so. You have to be much more critical on what stats are on the pieces than green arror/red arrow.
When mass farming and min maxing later… its a good way to evaluate if the item is even worth the time going over the affixes, or just marking as junk and moving on.
It serves a purpose, just not what most think it is.
Except as you were saying earlier is that arrow doesn’t actually tell you if the item is useful to your build or not. You have to read the item to see the affixes. Thus it is not needed, as you need to look at each item anyway.
Item level has been a thing in all previous Diablo games, it just wasn’t visible to players. I’m not sure how item power being visible affects you in any way, but ok.
Instead of reading every single item that drops, you look for the green, then, you read through the green ones, not the the red ones… since even if rolled right the red wont be better, saving you time, not just equipping it because it has green arrows.
I cant make it any clearer.
Youre still not mindlessly going “oooh green arrow equip it.”
Except, as you said before, even items with a red arrow may have affixes that make it a better overall item for your build. Thus it is giving you misinformation as you are completely ignoring that item completely.
Its pretty obvious you are being intentionally obtuse here just for the sake of forum fighting. If I mouse over an item and see 2 red arrows and 2 green arrows, its easier to glance at those 2 green stats and see if I care about them than it is to look at all 4 stats, see if they matter to me, and then compare them to the item I already have.
