Got my second character to level 50. Did you guys know that Paragon Points weren't shared between characters?

You’re asking for a reward on top of your reward.

You don’t need to be mad at me about it

No one’s mad

But then after I unlocked a bunch of skill points on that character, my next character had a bunch of skill points to start out with, and that wasn’t boring

Your second character didn’t start at level 50 with every skill points unlocked. Are you talking about the rewards for renown? Because those transfer between characters, including the paragon points.
So if you want those paragon points unlocked between characters: congratulations, they do!

If you grind the renown system, 20 points are shared.

But I don’t have a cat. :frowning:

Yeah I don’t know what to tell you. When did you purchase the game? Did you preorder?

I believe the bonus points from renown do carry over but anything you get on the character itself through leveling is restricted to them. Personally I’m fine with that. If you do all five zones that means you’ll have 20 free points to spend on every character you make in the future.

You get a total of 20+4 that are account wide. Which is enough to the second board asap.

Yes, it’s a massive design defect, considering how long it takes to level to 100 (equivalent to Paragon 5000 in D3).

I don’t mind the paragon tree as it is, but I agree with you it could absolutely be more exciting. The Legendary nodes are the only ones that are not plain old boring stats increases.

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Yes, it’s a massive design defect, considering how long it takes to level to 100 (equivalent to Paragon 5000 in D3).

Uhm, no.

idkm, i never expected paragon points to be shared between chars, just like how skill points arnt shared too.

The first thing they teach you in game theory is the more complex the rule system the easier the outcome is to predict. As people will find the path of least resistance. However when you limit choice some innate thing in the human psyche happens and we become ever more creative to overcome the limitation. Just to prove we can’t be limited.

Not sure what class you play, but do take a look at the rare glyphs. they are a huge source of power for your character as you fulfil the glyph requirements and level them up.

I didnt. But I am not surprised.

Kind of hate things being shared between characters so this is one thing I was pretty happy about.

d3 paragon was shared. You could have a lvl 1 with like 500 main stat right at the start. More crit, the whole nine yards. It was kinda crazy

Yea, i played d3, and felt that was crazy too.

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I did like going from 1 to 70 in under a minute in season 28 though. lol. But the paragon…yikes. I saw a 1 million crit, at lvl 2 on my necro. That did bother me. That reminded me so hard of the jumping the shark stuff. Like what ed greenwood did when he wrote his eliminister series. Old reference I know but its what pops into my head when I think of d3 paragon.

I was the complete opposite. I fully expected them to be individually part of each character because they are integrally part of leveling. In D3 you had to max out your level, not be able to level anymore at 70 so the Paragon levels seemed more completely independent of character levels. In D4 you get 4 paragon points per level as part of the leveling system.

I guess the Altars of Lilith offset the loss of infinite stat points that you could achieve in D3. Although the Paragon tables offer a lot of opportunities for stat points as well.

Yes but don’t worry: your tiny stash space IS shared!

Paragon points is just this games attribute system. We should have started getting them already from level one. First 50 from 1-50 then the next 150 from 50-100.

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So why you call them “paragon” in the first place? Just make a character that can go from 1 to 100 and that’s it.

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