Edit- Ok great points below. Putting elemental surge in place of double frozen orb is a no-go so we need some ideas on ways of getting shadow and poison into the build.
You need to apply shadow or poison element to trigger talrashas 4th element which can be applied by elemental surge for an additional 1.15 modifier. The uptime is 100% once its applied as long as you keep attacking. Better than an additive bonus.
Theres no other way outside of something like andariels visage for mages to do shadow or poison damage since we no longer have the vampire power infection right?
Yup. Sites like those are good jumping off points, but as the OP states, getting some extra multipliers with modifications if you’ve got the gear can be better.
Seems a little odd to be asking them to change their build guides on the official D4 forums. None of those guys come to these forums. You’d have better luck making your own guide and submitting it to them, or in the case of maxroll, find the streamer who made that particular guide and get them to change it.
I am sure they are trying their best to update…it can be difficult self-categorizing their own builds to a tier list…when you have no idea if there’s an average-joe build out there that trounces their ‘s-tier’ build.
Builders should never rate their own builds per a tier list. Leave that up to the players, as feedback. I guess this is akin to the peer-reviewed process.
‘My build is new max dps, s-tier!’…
settle down there, billy mays.
Well honestly the most strange thing in this build guides and tier lists that somehow maxroll put FO sorc in A-tier for clearing pit, but for anyone who actually played it it’s clearly that it C-tier at most or probably even lower, like some garbage tier.
nah i mean they can, so players should know what build they will make for any activity, but regarding FO sorc and maxroll lists it’s clearly missinformation that it is A-tier for pits. It’s just straight lies.
I used Maxroll or others for D3, then added what I enjoyed and studied the leaderboards to see what the top players were doing. This recipe served me well.
Perhaps they do it to avoid leaving a paper trail…
I try to be clear now, when sharing my build, maybe they can learn a clear format…
Gnomer’s Build v4.1…for example, leaves no confusion.
Maxroll’s FO v4.0…since there’s many FO variations out there. The version prevents them from back-tracking, trying to go back and change their published specs…
I know, I’m fun at parties.
ok yeah maxroll and icyveins guides were actually pretty solid. shadow and poison surges would compete with double frozen orb and i guess its not possible to temper both surges and double orb procs.
will have to keep an eye out for something to trigger that 4th element.
