Gauntlet = meta build or no competition

Certain builds are just superior…

Why not have leaderboards based off the core skill being used?
This would allow people to feel their on an even playing field, and allow players to play how they want instead of the meta.

People could actually test the build they’ve created against others with same core skill.

Or are we supposed to play meta build to compete in this?

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How would that work for people that use multiple core skills

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What ever number you get ends up on each core board I would guess, so…

You score 250k
With tornado and lightning storm on your skill bar

You place 250k on each board.
250k in tornado
250k in lightning storm

Edit: after thinking about this it might be a bad idea to end up on 2 boards…

A person could use a op core with a weak secondary core to get to the top of the weaker cores board…

Good question.

With private profiles we cant even see what builds are being used in some cases for the top 10.

Fantastic.

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Literally any game with competitive scoring will lend itself to those using best specs, spending the most time, or having the highest skill.

How is this a surprise.

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Theres a reason diablo 3 leaderboards were seperated by set used.

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because people cried? no need to separate leaderboards anymore than they are. if you cant make it you cant make it

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Yes. Because the sets were terribly op and dictated method of play because of that.

Its not a good solution for the issue; would have been better to have balance. As it stands, this solution only make more leaderboards without remotely addressing the issue.

Given there are plenty of builds that wipe trash mob’s instantly I don’t think meta builds are required. One of the main reasons for using t70 was to allow a wider range of builds to compete. Movement speed, and strategy, and no wasted movements, are the big items. To be top 10 is definitely going to be best of best like it would be in anything, game or rl.

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well that’s to be easily expected.
i mean leaderboard on any game will always be meta build
i mean the highest scoring build will become part of the meta automatically even if it wasn’t prior to that.
and meta will always emphasize the “best” builds.

it’d be weird to expect otherwise and there’s not much to do about that.

the ONLY way blizzard could avoid that would be to make every class have pre-defined paragon / skill / equipment set
for example if you pick barbarian you’ll have a whirlwind set , a hota set , a upheaval set etc…
a total of 5 sets per characters for example.

thus it would be wayyy easier and actually doable for blizzard to balance them depending on their individual overall scoring

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You know what would be cool is if each vault was them picking what you get and there are a handful of variables like maybe they give you access to several ultimates or 2 core skills or whatever.

You dont get to use your gear or skills or passives or anything. Its all prebuild like the set dungeons of d3. Then this would be a true test of skill. As is my meteor sorc is doomed. i cant do it fast enough as I dont have endless teleport. Every single top build is just abusing speed which is what we all knew would happen

I think this is the way to go and truly evens the field but it needs to come with some small choices. Maybe you get access to two different ultimates or 2 core skills or whatever.

It is as if they had nothing to go on. Battlenet back in the day with D2, once the issues were worked out was awesome. Leaderboards, trading, chatting, party up. WHY IS THIS NOT part of this game… Oh but the store is always stocked…

It took how many years/seasons before they broke it down by sets or no set in D3

How long do you think it will take here to do the samething?

i don’t think so, combat strategy it important, i played a few times same character and got vastly different scores when i tried different things, so there is a element to tactics and what your build can or cant do. Play have fun try meta don’t try meta, do whatever means having having for you. I dont care about LB so its about testing my personal might with a build i created, while having fun with the new mode. Thats it and earning whatever the seal progression is, it seems like it could have a better progress UI tbh.

Yes, because that’s how ANY competitive system works in games.

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The gauntlet is dominated by speed builds. Should have been 150 level monsters so damage, survive, and speed all matter.

You dont need armor, life, damage reduction, ect. All that are wasted points or affixes. Damage and speed. Even shrine duration is good. Esp movement speed bonus capped to 100% extra.

The same thing with AOZ… you needed meta builds or you couldn’t do it

yet… now there’s a thread of wanting to bring back AOZ…

gawd… sigh

false though as i answered to you in another topic.
you just simply couldn’t do Aoz 7++
but otherwise even without meta build or uber it was doable to do the 1 to 6.

The closest example is D3 challenge rifts and those used preset gear for everyone. So how is it not a surprise?

This feels like something they would implement in D:Immoral honestly.

It’s really weird to set up the gauntlet for just a handful of players when there are so many big issues with the game.