Fractured Winterglass 3.0 đŸ„¶

Why are we trying to “fix” the item? The item is fine, it’s not bugged. If you don’t like the Spear Lightning build, don’t play it. The season will be over in a few months and they’ll probably tweak this item for next season. I don’t understand people like this.

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I dint explain it good enuf?? Because this is a Frozen orb item not a spear item. This item is not called Fractured Spearglass. This item should be frost themed and reduce frost cooldowns (which still helps ice blades) and not conjure cooldowns.

Might not know how to code. But I pay attention to reality. Was not the devs that told us BL was bugged. Was the players. And they did this for awhile without a word from blizzard on it.
Then Blizzard just went along with it.
Another game I am playing players did the same thing. Said a certain gun was bugged. And it was OP and it was going to get nerfed the Devs said so. But unlike Blizzard these devs did not go for it. They flat said there was no nerf coming and that all these kids could go F themselves like real devs should do. Blizzard rolled over and agreed with the ignorant masses. That is what happened that is reality. You do not like it go tell your fairy tales to someone else. Because they do not work on me,

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Yah quotes from devs are fairy tales and then patch notes changing the skill. You have a god complex. You think everyone is wrong but you. Only you could be right. IF devs saying its bugged wont convince you then nothing would ever convince you it wasnt working right. This is the last word on this from me. You can go ahead and have the last word trying to convince us BL was never bugged, was never changed, was perfectly fine, and real world is a simulation you created.

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Been in gaming since there was such a thing. If BL was bugged in some specific way they would of told us EXACTLY what was bugged. Because that makes them sound like they know what they are talking about.
They are a business I do not begrudge them for lying to us. That is just smart. What Bothers me is idiots like you that take their word as the TRUTH. With absolute certainty and not a lick of common sense.

You can tell me view is moronic or idiotic but not me. That is a line for me. Personal attacks mean you have LOST my respect. Time to ignore you. Have a nice day! Oh since is the last post on this let me just repeat the most important part:

This is game over for anyone saying its not bugged. Game. Set. Match.

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You first mate and you can take your ideas with you. OP isn’t a Dev and chamges he suggest are straight up bad

Lol “YoU FiRsT” What are you F’ing 13? This games not rated for you buddy.

OP has solid points, and expressed them well. Unlike you, quick to throw around insults, childish, run back to your momma now.

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its not a fo design item its a fo/conjuration item. your suggestion isnt needed the ammy is fine as is. they might just need to tweak conjuration mastery as a skill.

Change this item to be like this , im sorry no . the item works its fun . His constant posts of change X to Y . HEs not a dev and multiple posts like this have been laugh at or show he has absolutely no idea about itemisation . The devs make the items how they are for a reason and current Winterglass is perfectly fine

This is a FO item. IT should be designed for frost.

I missed the memo about this part. Who said which item is what item?
Use some creativity and think outside the box.

Why wasn’t Gushing Wounds perfectly fine, again? Especially considering Sorc is doing more damage now then Bleed Bash was doing last season


Barb was OP AF for multiple reasons so they tone it down to be more like the other classes which is exactgly where it is now.

“Be more like other classes” except that it’s now the worst class in the game by far. Soooo, yeah lets make Sorc and Rogue “be more like Barb” next balance patch, how does that strike you?

Perfectly fine , if my build goes from doing Pit 130 to Pit 70 , wouldnt bother me cause theres no leaderboards

I am a Barbarian player and not a sorc player. But i’m happy for the Sorc players who can finally have fun for strong builds. It is great and should be in Diablo that you want to find a unique and when you have found it you are extremely happy.

Finally stop with this nerf demanded crap. Man this is so stupid this attitude


I am a logical person so when ppl start using item that is made for frozen orb to just stack conjurations I think we have reached druid territory where every build was summoning companions to stack damage. Do we want every build for sorc just stacking spears with conjure mastery? There are several builds now that dont even cast FO on bar they use winterglass just for other overpowered parts. This is not good design. This was not intended. This item should make sense for frost. This would be like ppl using starfall coronet to spam blizzards or blue rose to spam firewalls. Its backwards. Fractured winterglass not fractured SPEARglass.

And your wrong and not a Dev, sorc players are having a great time with this item wether ur frost or not. please stop

You will get a strong pushback for the simplest fact you want to nerf (for no particular reason) one of the only (even though “relatively easy” to gear) end game - and nice - build of the wizard.

Because of what, the name?

Other than that, this conjuration mastery is indeed too good. I don’t mourn that we have a really good S-Tier build for once, in fact I rejoice about it!
But I mourn that our only choice for the foreseeable future is conjurer build (because of that passive).
Yeah, yeah, we had (have?!) the ball lightning one, I just didn’t like its play style.

I skipped sorc for S2-4, and I missed my chance in S1 to switch to BL, but the discussion over “bugs” is interesting generally. I get the sense a lot of “bug fixes” are actually value changes in response to unforeseen but otherwise normal interactions - i.e. an ability/item which they failed to test for real output. At first glance, BL seems to fit this category.

The patch notes for 1.3.0 (Jan 23, 2024) lists it under “Bug Fixes” and says the following:

  • Fixed an issue where Ball Lightning was dealing far more damage than intended.

Developer’s Note: Ball Lightning was dealing an unintended amount of damage because of its Enhanced upgrade. This bug fix returns the amount of damage done by this Skill to intended quantities.

and

Ball Lightning

  • Enhanced Ball Lightning changed to have its attack rate increase with attack speed, up to 25%.

Unless there’s an interaction/bug not listed in the patch - or there’s another “fix” in another patch - the “bug fix” here was to change the value of Enhanced Ball Lightning from 200% to 25%. Unless they go into detail elsewhere, my impression is that it was 200% by design, and after the player base tested it (because Blizzard didn’t) they realized that’s too much and dialed it down to 25%.

If that’s an adequate recap, it stretches the meaning of “bug” beyond recognition. Also, it would show inconsistency in communication, since they at other times admit to having overtuned or undertuned things.

(Note: this is aside from the S2 vampiric interaction(s).)