During the Q&A portion of the Class/Itemization Campfire Chat, a question was brought up asking the devs on how they plan to fix Barb’s reliance on shouts. The answer is fairly simple to this as it all stems from Fury generation. Barbs want to be able to generate as much Fury as they can so they can keep things like WW and other Core skills up as much as possible.
Here is how you fix the problem:
Aspect of Echoing Fury: Your Shout Skills generate [2-4] Fury per second while active.
Change this to: Using a Shout Skill generates [4-8] Fury per second for 10 seconds. Using additional Shouts refreshes the duration.
This changes it from a stacking buff to a one time buff that doesn’t stack but can be refreshed. Having a built in timer for the buff also removes the dependency on Bold Chieftains Aspect to extend Shout Duration specifically for the Fury buff.
This isn’t the only change needed though. You need to change other aspects to generate Fury from non-shout skills like Iron Skin, Ground Stomp, and/or Charge that can stack with the change to Aspect of the Echoing Fury.
This would open up skills the Barb wouldn’t take normally while also decreasing Shout dependency.
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Fantastic suggestion.
I would opt for the timer to be 15 seconds so that for fury alone 1 shout would be enough and that using more shouts would be for other benefits. That would also make cooldown not be mandatory, at least for fury regen.
If like you say other skills would also do well with fury gen then Echo Fury wouldnt be must have either.
Anyways I’m thinking of tweaking the suggestion which is another discussion. Step one would be to simply start taking your approach.
Great stuff.
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Well I said 10 seconds because with cooldown reductions on shouts from various sources, I think you can get any shout to a 10 second CD. Cant remember how low the specific CD you can give a shout skill but it would be that number plus 2 seconds for some wiggle room to keep the buff up. So maybe 12-15 seconds would be alright.
The intention is to use this aspect with only 1 shout mandatory and any other shout as optional. I also made the Fury Generation equal to having 2 Shout buffs stacked using the current Echoing Fury.
The remaining additional 2-4 fury generation per second can and should come from other skills like I mentioned before: Iron Skin, Ground Stomp, and Charge.
Ground Stomp has a way to give Fury from Tactical Ground Stomp. Maybe an aspect can be added to turn it into a Fury per second skill so Barbs can drop that option and take the Ultimate CD reduction option.
Charge doesn’t have a way that I know of to generate Fury. Charge WW builds were popular in D3 for Higher GR pushing. It would be kind of nice to have an aspect that gives Charge some fury generation. Same with Iron Skin.