As burning instinct goes up, the tooltip in the paragon says burning damage increases, but the firewall damage remains the same in the tooltip.
Is this a bug or is the game intended to be this way?
Youtube link for reference: Diablo 4 - THEY NEED TO FIX THIS - Fire Damage is COMPLETELY BROKEN - YouTube
This is not an error…you get extra burning based on how much crit damage it does…firewall can NOT crit and there for has 0 crit damage to increase the burning by.
FYI my tool tip says 247% for the bonus damage…now I wonder if I actually get that on my spells that can crit when they do crit. As that is the only time it should apply.
“Your burning damage is increased by 40% of your critical strike damage.”
Critical strike damage doesn’t affect Damage over time skills, I get it. It can’t crit, but the wording makes it seem like you can receive extra burning damage from the Burning Instinct Legendary Paragon node, when in actuality, you don’t. Every other class instantly blows away mobs. Firewall mage tickles them.
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I’m under the same impression, as is every other person who puts a guide out. Every single person is advising that this impacts BURNING and not CRIT. The benefit increases with CRIT DAMAGE and INT used as a multiplier.
“Your Burning damage is increased by 40% of your Critical Strike Damage, further increased by 5% for every 20 Intelligence you have.”
What Fluffinator is suggesting is that it does not impact your burning damage at all outside of CRITS. However, it is worded specifically to apply to BURNING and not CRIT. Look at every other tooltip that impacts CRIT % and CRIT DMG, it specifies exactly that. So I disagree with what they are saying. I believe it should be increasing all BURNING damage.
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It says increases by ""of your crit damage…spells that can’t crit have no crit damage to increase it by…you only have crit damage to increase it by when you crit…pretty straight forward
It takes your sheet crit damage and your intelligence and spits out an additive modifier to burning damage. It has nothing to do with whether or not a skill can crit.
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want to add, the 1500 damage per tick is WITHOUT Burning Instinct. with Burning Instinct, it’s around 3700 damage per tick (Burning Instinct tooltip shown 489% bonus).
Firewall base damage number just don’t make sense, hope someone can shed some light on this question.
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I wonder how much this would help burn sorcs if this was multiplicative instead of additive and I don’t see how it would really get abused by other sorc specs if this was changed to multiplicative make it happen blizzard.
If this was multiplicative, dual hydras would burn tick for 1 million damage. Something tells me they won’t allow that to happen.
I really doubt that tbh and lets be real other damage over time builds already pump out crazy numbers and they use way more direct damage skills/sources in comparison to a burn sorc.
You doubt they would hit for a million? 400% extra damage as a multiplier is 5x. I can get burn stacks ticking @ 200k on an elite with two hydras right now without running aspect of engulfing flames. If this were multiplicative you could easily hit 1 million with that aspect.
Wow I didn’t even know that was possible. Just double hydras? Does this include control aspect on a 2hand and having all 3 conditions active with other sources of burning or just the 2 hydras?
Yeah hydras with burning instinct are pretty nutty as far as burn damage goes (relative to other sources of burn, still bad relative to say a poison rogue).
That’s with the following:
- Rank 9 hydra
- 3/3 devouring blaze
- 1 hander + off hand
- Frozen / Vulnerable / Stunned applied
- Control on 1H
- Ancient flame on amulet
- Retribution on gloves
- Serpentine on Offhand
- No other sources of burning (not even fire bolt enchant)
I usually run ice shards or blizzard so I don’t really have fire sorc gear. I was just testing some random builds last night and had to cobble this together. It could be improved with rank 12 hydra, 6/3 devouring blaze, immobilize applied and aspect of engulfing flames. Also a complete paragon overhaul (I just reconfigurerd my blizzard board for the test).
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That sounds sweet thanks for sharing.
Thanks for taking the time to test it. As I deal 1-2k damage ticks, I’m watching this guy on YouTube whip out 2million damage with bone spear necro. The disparity in damage between classes in just mind - blowing.
Blizzard says I have to post in forums to “report bugs.” Well…let’s wait another month for the next patch to come out I guess and pray it might do something to firewall… Not seeing anything on it this patch is just so sad. No one plays it because it’s so brokenly bad.
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CRIT STRIKE DMG is a stat on your items. You do not have to crit for it to influence the legendary node… Again, “Your Burning damage is increased by 40% of your Critical Strike Damage, further increased by 5% for every 20 Intelligence you have.”
YOUR BURNING DAMAGE IS INC… Burning damage is an additive damage bonus. Pretty straightforward.
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I use 2 fire enchantments firewall and fire bolt w my lightning build. My burning instinct legendary node bonus is 180%. Does DoT not receive this bonus? Didn’t really notice a difference once I paragon’d the node. You’d think “burning damage” would apply to all types. Hopefully it’s bugged because I’m trying to pair w aspect of engulfing flames. With a +180% my DoT damage should b deadly now! Sadly it isn’t. Anyone know what’s up?
My firewalls damage get a bonus from my Burning Instinct node, but it’s still pitiful. I have over 570% from this node alone, and that increases my firewall damage from 3.2k or so to 4.5k or so. Don’t forget this is additive damage, not multiplicative. It adds to all the other common +% damage you get on gear, paragon and whatever. Also, Firebolt enchant seems bugged. It does 1 damage regardless of your power and modifiers.
The only thing that could be affected by this damage are your firewalls and firewalls alone.
In my case, Hydras burning proc seems to benefit more from Burning Instinct than any other spell.
It’s possible there are even weird interactions/glitches that prevent Burning Instinct from even applying to Burning skills or even turns things around, seeing as some people seem to get even less damage when Burning instinct node is ON.
What’s odd is when I use forebolt skill I can def see it applying including to my DoT but I don’t like the skill as much as spark since I get stun and crit strike chance. As an enchantment tho it does nothing. At level 1 23% it’s 4k+ damage. With a +180% it should be doing something like 20k dmg