10+ Examples of what is exploiting and what is not as this keeps popping up all over with ppl that are confused.
To me exploit means the character is causing the bug to happen on purpose when it otherwise would not happen to gain benefit and most likely this is being repeated over and over. This helps prove intent.
Using bug to your advantage → Not exploiting
Example: Spiritborns using bugged paragon nodes
Using Ball lightning build in S2
Pretty much most the builds ever made.
Using bug to your advantage that you are causing to happen when it would not happen otherwise → Exploiting
Example: Players starting undercity with tribute and then bugging system in a certain way in party not to not use tribute and still gain benefit
Using bug to evade quickly normally with spacebar or mousewheel → Not exploiting
Using bug to evade ultra quickly breaking animations with automatic macro → Exploiting
Snapshotting items to gain extra aspect power → Not exploiting
Duplicating items, gold, or boss mats → Exploiting
Bypassing measure to take items and gold from seasonal to eternal → Exploiting
Playing Spiritborn hero → Not exploiting
Farming omega XP from strongholds before fixed → Not exploiting.
Thats the example list!
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Using bugs to your advantage regardless are exploits. You can play semantics all you want but many people have been banned and/or rolled back in WoW for exploiting boss bugs to avoid content intended as part of said boss fights and such things.
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Using the node, as an example, is not outright exploiting. Now maxing out max life or whatever is needed for that node because you know it will amp your damage is exploiting.
Not exploiting or every person using ball lightning build in S2 and pretty much every single build in the game right now would be exploiting because something on every single character is bugged and providing advantage
Not exploiting. Using and maxing life on gear and paragon is not causing the bug to happen and if it was players would have to be intentially doing it to make the bug happen which is impossible to prove.
It is exploiting if you know maxing life on par with that node is amping your damage. I am just using that max life as an example. If max life has nothing to do with the node, then definitely not exploiting. The question is what mechanic are you abusing to max out that node because you know willingly that it will Amp your damage out of normal range
Intentionally using a bug to amp your damage classified as an exploit would get 99% the ppl to have ever played the game to be banned from S2 Ball lightning stacking attack speed to barb multiplicative stacking when it was supposed to be addiitve to current SB using half the passives we have. ITs not an exploit. An exploit has to cause it to happen when it otherwise would not happen.
No, an exploit is to intentionally repeat something to gain an advantage in the game, knowing it is not how it’s supposed to function, and is bugged. Whether they decide to ban you for it or not is a seperate issue.
Yes this could be an exploit if its something the player is doing to cause the bug to happen when it otherwise would not but if players is not causing the bug to happen this it is not an exploit.
Lets take Ball lightning build as example. Everyone knew it was bugged and broken yet we still used it to repeatedly defeat monsters and gain advantage in higher torments just like most SB builds now. IS this exploiting? You say it is according to your definition but it clearly is not or 99% of the players would be at risk of a ban. Exploiting is serious.
Really then anything anyone uses they are good at repeatedly would be an exploit of your talents. Working and timing around attack dynamics is exploiting the pattern of the attack, to use anything in an unfair advantage (unfair even if others don’t know about it) is truly defined as an “exploit”… It is a fairly subjective definition.
Using a bug such as the SB evade is not “exploiting” until a macro is attached. Otherwise normal space bar use is not an exploit… You too could do it, I gain no advantage from it that if you used that build and class you could be using to… If you compare to another class mechanics right now; you made the choice to not play it and that still doesn’t make it an exploit…
Yes, I use the evade build. No I do not use macros and YES I AM GLAD THEY FIXED THE BUG!
I see the distinction you’re making. I agree. I don’t see the SB evade thing an exploit, but something they should have fixed in their coding so that it wasn’t possible to begin with.
Evade spam was from mapping to mousewheel and using a mouse that has a freespinning wheel. I used an MX Master 3 and it felt awesome. I did switch to Crushing Hand after hearing about the nerf though and it’s even more powerful so am happy I switched. To assume that everyone playing evade is using macros is an extremely uninformed opinion.