You know Blizz has it wrong when even Rhyker says there is a problem with a loot and greater affixes.
And the fix is so easy. If blizz made Ancestral oranges and uniques drop at ilvl 800 without GAs and made these items drop lot more regularly they could keep their GA items as aspirational and we would have a chance to get decent gear and max out our codex - everyone wins - and so easy to implement! It basically what we had before and everyone was happy with.
All ancestral oranges should drop with codex affix in ancestral range
Uniques with 2 or more GA should role with unique affix in higher range
Next patch shouldn’t go live without changes like this to loot
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There’s a problem with loot alright, we agree on that. But the codex ain’t it.
Whites and blues are literal garbage and need to be reworked, yellows need their third affix back, legendaries are boring AF with their affix pool being dog water, and tempering sucks.
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They will say anything if it gets them views and subs. I was there on the PTR right along with those streamers. And i also watched their videos and reaction. So guess why things are the way they are. There was no consideration for all the vendor “Cheat” gear that was being used which artificially inflated numbers through the roof. Yes somethings needed adjustments. But not to the degree they were made.
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The poor guys need to make content out of something. There isn’t a whole lot going on right now. They need to nitpick every little thing if they have to.
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This is a good opportunity for Periwinkle Blue. 
People use Streamers in pretty much every way by now. If a streamer suggestion doesnt appeal, its like "OMG STREAMERS ARE RUINING D4!!!
If a Streamer suggestion supports the forums narrative, its like “streamers say this needs to be changed!”
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They are the ones invited by Blizzard to test the game and they had access the VoH before the community. I guess their opinion matters. Make sense that people report what they say.
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You stream, I stream, We all stream for icecream!
I wonder if the OP is the next Ovian 
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And it seems like they have it set up so that aspects do not drop at max but incrementally go up little bits towards the end. I found 1… ONE upgrade in the past week and it was just 1% more.
I don’t mind putting in the time to grind… fortunately I have time. But this is nuts. And I feel nothing but sympathy for those who have limited amounts of time to play.
People talk about SB and the expansion being a pay wall… forget that. There is a much, much higher Time Wall to hurdle.
That being said, they think you don’t need that last 5% of this aspect or the last 75 levels of Paragon. But to me it’s like looking at a the most delicious piece of cake and then being told you can only have half.
I WANT ALL DA CAKE! AND I WANTS MY PRECIOUS NOW!
Yeah, I am being a little hyperbolic to make it entertaining lol.
For goodness sake dear Devs, can you loosen the reigns a little on the aspects?
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Traditionally I have not bothered much with streamers but I have used several of Rob2628’s charts lately, since they have good numerical info.
I don’t really care what their opinions are but I have to give credit to the work in those charts as I am too lazy to do it myself lol.
yea seeing it exactly the same way. I mean all this stuff could be done by yourself but why? other people have done it for a living already so yea, im gladly using their spreadsheets lol
next to rob im also using wudijos stuff as hes for sure the better source for rogue infos.
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Honestly? I am sick and tired of the Well known streamers crying in a Creator Discord with Blizzard and getting their way. They can no life and Chad all they want. I wish Blizzard realized there were many more people playing this game than just the Loud Streamers making demands. Loot is very clearly Broken. Easy fix is… T3 & T4 ONLY drop GA 800 Lvl items and… I’m gonna get hate but. Stop all trading until they can find a way to do it in game and ONLY in game. I played the Old WoW all the way through Burning Crusade and Blizzard just cannot seem to ever get game economy correct. Everything Blue does is only making the Gold seller issue worse. Wanna buy an item with 1 GA? 5 Billion Gold. THIS is why people are supporting the Gold sellers. Economy is BROKEN. Let’s not even get going on the Crashing to Desktop since the Very poorly coded VoH was released.
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You pointed out many problems but omitted the biggest one of them all
Just remove that abomination from the game and replace it with something more fun and experimental already
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In no season have I ever picked up a yellow item past level 25. There needs to be a insta-salvage filter option.
There’s nothing wrong with whites, blues, and yellows being garbage; tier progression has been an expected part of pretty much every game that uses tiered loot for decades now.
You do get some games where every now and then you’ll go down a tier because you find something to replace an outdated higher tier piece. But by endgame, you’re expected to be equipped with whatever that game’s legendary equivalent is.
In short I really don’t understand the occasional obsession I see with making garbage useful. Who cares?
The only real problem is none of that stuff (except yellows) was ever useful while leveling. But that’s like 1% of the game over a long enough timescale.
I also dont understand calling the affixes boring. They’re functional and that’s what makes the game playable.
LE has a metric butt ton of weird and gimmicky nonsense uniques - maybe that’s more up your alley?
I did actually like it better when I could imprint a yellow and it would be awesome. Couldn’t care less about blues and whites though. Get rid of them after like level 15 or 20. Kinda hard to make the yellows worth anymore. What are they gonna do, make normal yellow and then ancestral yellow?
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They need to simplify their whole gear tiers.
There is no need for 2 orange tiers.
What is Ancestral today should be the only orange and be called Legendary.
What is orange legendary (750) gear today should become yellow.
Today’s yellows should be blue and get a 3rd affix.
Delete today’s blues and greys altogether.
And yes, make top aspects much easier to get, and make the level 800 gear always drop with aspects in the top 20% of the range.
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They are useless. Levelling to 60 is a formality, 90% of the game happens past level 60 where anything below legendary is literal trash. So pretty much you could make legendaries into white items and ancestrals into blue and it wouldn’t change anything.
And after short while anything below ancestral is trash anyway, because they are required to progress into T3 and T4.
So pretty much yellow could be whites, leggos could be blues and ancestral could be yellows, while mythic uniques may stay as they are. And maybe this way it would be less annoying to receive blue item as a reward for something.
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I like the suggestion that you make, op, to uncouple ancestrals from 800 item power items.
I think you are exactly right that it would make maxing out aspects a lot easier, but it would still keep the best items as rare as they currently are. But that’s just me.
Allow blacksmith to add 2-3 random affixes to Rares, in exchange for disabling imprinting on that item.
A choice between more normal affixes vs. getting a legendary affix.
Of course, this would likely also require more interesting normal affixes, and a rebalance of legendary affixes (fewer multiplicatives? that is kinda needed anyway)
Also, for Rares to fulfill the original role that Blue items had; give Rares a chance to roll the same affix twice; giving them higher values than you can get on legendaries.
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