IDK if D3 is running Warden, but in WoW they look at what’s loaded into RAM as well as keypress timing. That’s why it’s impossible to say whether someone will be banned. You can do the same thing in AHK, Razer, and Windows and have different outcomes. I’ve even heard of bans for AHK when the player was just remapping keys.
Generally the rule is that one input, equals one action. But, using a third party program to create and use a macro will often flag your account. You will need to contact support directly. Streamers get away with everything because they are advertisement for Blizzard and rules don’t apply to them.
You are completely wrong in not understanding the difference between Software/Macro and Window features. While the software is just an simulation program user interaction, the Filter Keys feature works directly with the connected hardware.
It’s technically against the terms of service but nothing will happen to you imo
Even an operating system is software. It might be one level closer to the hardware but it’s still software and could potentially have features a game developer doesn’t want you to use to manipulate their game.
Looking into filter keys more its intended use originally seems to be more about accessibility and people who accidentally hit a key multiple times due to disabilities. Gamers in multiple games seem to abuse it for other purposes (and argue about whether it should be bannable in some competitive games).
Your original comment:
made it sound as though it was something that was automatically repeating key presses at an interval like a macro.
Watching actual videos about filter keys it seems like if it has much value in what people are even talking about in this thread you’d have to combine it with something else that was actually repeating key presses anyway as holding down the evade key doesn’t repeat cast it, which is why people are using macros or controllers with “turbo” buttons or other things that auto-repeat presses. Filter keys sounds like it’s just about altering input delay. It could let you manually spam it faster as well, but that’s not what the thread was about.
Logitech’s software works with it’s mice/keyboards or razr software works with its devices. Maybe you can argue they’re one step further removed than the operating system, but it’s really not relevant. It’s not like there’s a rule that says you can’t manipulate our game unless it’s at the OS level.
Setting custom functions to keys in logitech/razr software that automatically spam a key or especially automatically do a sequence of keys are still a violation of Blizzard’s ToS (whether or not they’d enforce them differently than if you used a macro program instead of the software that pairs with a major companies hardware).
I literally watched his stream and he was telling people to use a macro. I asked in chat if they were against ToS, and people in the chat were saying yes, but he still kept telling people to use one.
Plz reread this, you still not get the point:
And so sorry when you still think Filter Keys is a software or macro. Have no time for that.
can you use the numlock trick on it?
Probably the safest.
I think because he has that privilege and we don’t. Diablo Content Creator…
What is the specific outcome you want from this? Do you want to get the content creator banned or do you want permission to use a macro?
No, evade doesn’t auto repeat when you hold a key down. That’s the main problem with it and why people are using other things to repeat the key press instead.
No, you didn’t get the point I just made which is far more useful than the pointless nonsense you repeated.
You also didn’t describe what filter keys does correctly when you first mentioned it which I corrected above.
Sorry, what was Raxx using exactly again? I want to understand what exactly blizzard told him to stop.
Sounds like you need to go to PS5 and get a controll with a interuppted buttong down. (repeater) - MADCATZ!
From what I’ve read on reddit some people are using controllers on PC as well that have built in features to auto-repeat keys.
I don’t think they should really be considered any different than just using logitech/razr software on a keyboard or mouse since they have built in features to bind keys to repeat when held down and what not. It’s basically the same thing as a macro though.
Wrong, the way you describe is not correct with the way the operating system works. When it is software, it has to work through the shared libraries of the operating system, not directly like the operating system itself through the built-in hardware control drivers.
Evilking seems to know what he is talking about.
I have to remap some keys on my steel series board since it’s 10keyless. I’m wondering if it’s a dll interaction and not an actually press registered to the windows system.
Autohotkey must be going through the dlls or something since they catch that one all the time as a macro program. (DO NOT USE THIS PROGRAM EVEN FOR SOMETHING ELSE - I THINK WARDEN WILL JUST FLAG YOU FOR HAVING IT INSTALLED).
That’s nice but the way you describe is also wrong bud.
You’re mostly just making a pointless semantic argument that has nothing to do with anything but since you’re the one that wants to be annoying about pointless semantics and ignore any relevant point to the actual topic of the thread:
An operating system is software.
Drivers are also software and the use of the term “built-in” here is not really correct either.
So funny! So you think software running inside the OS through shared libraries interacts with hardware is the same like the OS interacts with hardware?
I’m just throwing your poor misuse of words back in your face since you wanted to be annoying about semantics while not using the words precisely yourself.
Hope that helps!!
Also, everything you just said in your last post was purely something you said and nothing I said at all.
Weak argument but still arguing.
If software/macro works like OS then why does it need OS to run?
Stup*d still talking a lot…
I didn’t say “works like OS,” you’re having a pointless argument with yourself in your mind.
You are misusing the word “software” in an imprecise way while being pedantic and annoying.
You then seemingly made a few attempts to make a useless point about abstraction layers which are also not relevant but you never really explained it well anyway.
The argument originally started because of your imprecise description of filter keys and your wording suggesting it could be used in some way to auto-repeat an action like a macro when it seemingly is actually just software that lets you adjust input delay settings.
If an operating system feature existed that let you automatically repeat a key press, it would in-fact not be meaningfully different than a macro or even a built in controller feature since the end-result is that you’re using automation. Nobody cares about abstraction layers or HOW its automating, it’s the fact that it’s automating that is the issue being discussed as to whether or not it would be allowed.
Oh, and I think your entire obsession with this line or talking is actually a distraction because you’re embarrassed you mentioned filter keys and the numlock trick in the first place when they aren’t actually relevant at all to a discussion about evade macros.