It wouldn’t be hard to force instancing with similar leveled players. It’s essentially never worth trying to gather seeds when someone 10-20 levels higher than you can swoop in and one-shot you at any moment.
Level brackets of 5 at least. (40-45, 45-50, ect). SOMETHING other than what we have now.
These threads every day aren’t going to change anything.
It’s not meant to meet some ideal of ‘fairness’. If someone comes up to you and ganks you, that’s how it’s supposed to work.
Not just have people at the upper bound of each level range ganking everyone else all the time because that’s all a specific character is used for.
If not level brackets then why not scale everyone to a base level per world tier? Something to steer it towards skill-based PVP instead of whoever spends the most time grinding level demolish everyone else.
Diablo PVP has always been garbage. Diablo 4 is a push for more MMO-style play and accessibility, so push for more accessible PVP.
I have beaten many players 10 lvls higher so I’d ageee but say the brackets should be 10 levels like how WoW is.
Also at some point it appears being higher level doesn’t help that much as there are other factors more important: gear , paragon and paragon glyphs.
At the very least if you are T4 and above lvl 73 you should always be in the T4 bracket and not go in T3 with a lvl 85 full gear.
But this isn’t just a pvp it’s like a world
Pvp so you can still get ganked by random players who have grouped together . So sometimes having superior level and gear is a must to equalize the game.
I have had situations where I get group ganked by like 3 players similar or abit lower level and that’s just as unfair as being ganked by a high level player .
If pvp is ever going to be considered a core part of the diablo experience it will need to evolve. Right now its a waste of time if you arent 90+, which is perfectly fine if its only meant as something for end game characters to play around with towards the end of a season.
I completely disagree been doing pvp from lvl 65-74 and has a blast. Already have the full cosmetic armor set, the horse , every single horse armor and trophy from the pvp as well as the Hatred’s chosen title.
Currently at lvl 74 sitting on 150k shards.
You can totally pvp and be competitive after lvl 60 at WT3.
Sure sometimes you get some annoying high level killing you but that’s part of the thrill and you learn to think strategically.
Like if a dangerous player is on the map don’t hoard 10 000 shards and try cash them all at once in the middle of the map, instead cash out every 3000-4000 and wait until someone else starts to cash theirs before you start purifying yours , this way the high level player will go chase the first ritual or possibly he will be the one doing the ritual meaning he wouldn’t have the time to chase you until you are done .
A lot of fun scenarios out there , and you should know that there will always eventually come a bigger fish and kill your, but it’s not a big deal really you can just move to the other pvp zone or take a break if that happens
Another option, if you’re on console (only done on PS5 but assume XBox as well) is to turn off cross-play. PvP is deserted when I do this which is something I’ll do if there is a team or a SIGNIFICANTLY higher level around. Makes the farming a bit boring but… one work around potentially for some people
If you get genked in Hardcore PvP zone is your toon a ghost, destroyed?
Honestly that’s my impression too the zones are fairly deserted and I don’t think I ever seen more than 10-15 people in the same zone. I am not sure what’s the limit but they are definitely instanced.
Many times I would have been farming a rather empty zone then I would Disconect and renter right away and all of a sudden the players are completely diffferent.
I never seen any of the zones to be super populated ever.
Diablo PvP was never balanced and it isn’t going to start now.
Having level limits based on WT would at least stop level 100s wading into WT1-3 PvP zones and off-screening everyone in their vicinity.
Fortunately, I am not that interested in PvP, at least from what I’ve seen so far. I gave it a few tries but every time I get one shotted by a player 30 levels above me. The worst part is that it’s me spending all the time to gather shards doing activities and killing monster, and then there are always some random lvl100 guys, that run to me in 20 seconds and get all the rewards. Anyone else that I tried to group up with is same lvl as me or a couple levels lower. Makes no difference to the fight as every AoE attack a lvl 100 does kills us instantly. I hope I am not missing on any significant rewards.