Did they buff Echo of Lilith into God mode? I just killed Echo of Duriel and Andarial relatively easily but Lilith I barely made her health even move a slight crumb of damage.
I did a bread crumb of damage to her.
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Yupp. She is still a pinacle challenge, that should not be easy.
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She is harder than the lvl 200 bosses, which makes sense because she doesn’t have a higher level version and gives the same resplendent spark. She is supposed to be the GOAT boss and she is a WAY better fight now. You can ACTUALLY SEE her claw attacks now!
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Lore wise why is she 100x stronger than Lords of Hell?
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Yea it is kind of weird lore wise.
Lilith is Mephisto’s daughter. Mephisto is one of the three Prime Evils though. Where as Duriel and Andariel (they’re twins) were born of the same being as Mephisto, but they are lesser evils.
One would think, lore wise, the 7 Greater Evils (3 prime and 4 lessser) would be more powerful than an offspring of any of their relatives. My best guess is Mephisto is helping her behind the scenes and making her more powerful. Would be the only way she’d be more powerful then either Andariel or Duriel at this point.
the lesser evils arent all that powerful lore wise tho. i mean it took 4 lesser evils + all the forces of hell to revolt against the 3 greater evils (because the greater evils tried to keep sanctuaries existance a secret, which wasnt received too well by the lesser evils, especially azmodan and belial), and even then, they merely banished them to sanctuary leading to the dark exile.
Id say that it makes sense that mephistos offspring is stronger, or at the very least on par with the lesser evils.
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She’s like 100 times stronger. How much stronger are the Prime evils? A million?
you know, tormented versions of bosses arent really the bosses that the power scaling of the lore.
we fought andariel, duriel and lilith in the campaign. Lilith being slightly stronger than the former bosses.
I still dont understand why this boss 1 hits you all the time, wouldnt be more fun if the damage was more adeccuate? its impossible for me to beat it because I dont see the spikes
echo of lilith doesnt one shot you anymore if you correctly play the boss fight.
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Yes it does, all the time killed by her or the spikes
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if the spikes one shot you early in the fight, your character isnt ready for her yet. All of her mechanics dont one shot you anymore, but apply a permanent debuff to your character that will lead to you taking more damage on a boss.
So far id say that you can mess up 3 times. on 3 stacks the damage pretty much one shots you. Granted its day 4 of the season, so i guess that will increase to 4-5 stacks over the next days.
so long story short, you get to mess up a few times in the boss fight, which makes her way less punishing.
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So level 100, gear at 8, items at 925, paragon board completed and im not ready for her? Well then screw this challenge
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Oh yes, she does. I’ve died multiple times to things that I couldn’t even determine what killed me. From full to dead instantly. Not a claw wave, not to the blood blister phase, just…dead. Unless you have a total cheese build she’s still a ton of RNG. This much RNG is what makes the fight so unpleasant. The spark isn’t worth the type of stress and frustration it causes.
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well, i dont know your gear setup, your affixes, your tempering, and your build in general. But yes, if the first hate spikes one shot you already, you arent ready for the fight.
Its not a big deal tho, sometimes its ok to just accept a defeat.
id assume you collected too many stacks. at some point, even her autoatack would kill you.
just to add btw, im not saying shes easy, but she is more forgiving than before, and also, her skills are easier to dodge.
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I’ve only killed her once and that was with the broken ball sorc in season 2. And even that took me quite a few tries. I had to learn to pop my flame shield at just the right time for that first wave of spikes, which ALWAYS pop where you are. Once I learn that I was able to take her. But I haven’t tried since then because its a lot of work for a boss that doesn’t drop anything of value.
Shes not “harder” imo, mechanically seems the same or a bit more forgiving.
Its that she has 2 billion hp. Watching Rob do 30-50mil hits and still taking a few minutes to take her down deflates my confidence. Im sitting here, max level, a few pieces masterwork 2 & 1, a few of my greater affixes (stats I want) hit the 25% rolls. Sat there beating on her for about 5 minutes to do 5% damage until the damage debuf stacks were too much.
I dont follow guides…but whats a man gotta do to do 20-30 million hits lol
i almost got her to phase 2. probably need more damage on my golems and i am gucci
its couple days into the league…
i got 3 months to tempering and masterworking my gear to beat her
this time i am necro, season 3 i was overpower barb and just 1 shot her than tank her
I guess I will never be able to actually kill her, I still can’t really see her mechanics that well, and I don’t want to be carried.
Struggled a few dozen times, because she’s a season journey objective and partly because I want to test my build, but couldn’t survive in the second phase.
Everyone has their own opinion about the Echo of Lilith, so I’ll keep mine to myself, you can probably tell by my comment which way it goes.
However I was surprised that I managed to kill the tormented version of Uber Duriel on my very first try, no deaths, so my season journey is almost complete.
As I got older I realized that I don’t have the patience to 100% a game anymore, and that’s fine, no super secret achievement this season either.
And even though I’m upset about the Echo of Lilith fight, I don’t want a stat nerf or something on her, it would cheapen the fight and achievement, leave her as the pinnacle challenge of the game.
Lore wise, why is there no diablo in a diablo game even a year later. Blizzard is the answer lol