Diablo 4's Battle Pass is about to be in serious trouble

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I’m not going to harp on the many criticisms towards the game seen on the forum. Many posters have already said the game is too hard unless you conform to a particular build. Many posters have already said they do not feel powerful as they continue to level, which corresponds to the first statement obviously.

The part that strikes me as odd is Blizzards reliance on the battle pass and seasons. From my understanding, “a significant majority of the players” haven’t completed Diablo 4. I’m trying to find the article, but I remember coming across an article a few weeks back that only 7% of players have completed the campaign.

Yet Blizzard has made it a requirement that you must beat the campaign before you can play in seasons and level up your battle pass or purchase items on the battle pass. This makes no sense. I know it’s probably larger than 7% of the population that has beaten Diablo 4 now, but using the 7%, Blizzard is relying on 7% of the demographic to purchase items for its battle pass? If so, that’s asinine.

I bring this up because I regrettably purchased the ultimate edition, which granted me the premium pass and accelerated tiers. Yet because I haven’t beaten the campaign, I can’t even access the content I specifically purchase. I’ve been holding off on playing until Blizzard finally makes summoner/companion druids a viable build. But this restriction not only locks out the majority of players from accessing the battle pass, it also locks out the individuals who bought the deluxe and ultimate edition from accessing content they purchased.

More so, there’s nothing in their product review that states the seasonal pass unlock/ accelerated seasonal battle pass unlock would be dependent upon completing the game. It only states the battle pass will unlock with Season 1. I have screenshots just in case blizzard decides to suddenly change it too. Had that information been provided before hand, I would have been much less likely to purchase the edition.

So, you best believe if they don’t adjust this to allow deluxe and ultimate edition users to receive the content they purchased, they’re going to be getting a lot of calls asking for a refund. Plus they’re only going to have a fraction of a fraction of people actually purchasing their battle pass content.

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I believe you can save the season pass and accelerating pass for future season. You don’t have to use it on season 1. You also don’t have to beat the campaign in order to play season 1. The only thing you miss out is skip the campaign. You can start completely fresh in season 1.

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Just because many posters say something doesn’t make it true.

Those were stats from the June 16 campfire chat, 10 days after release. And I don’t believe they said 7%?

Nothing is preventing you from completing the campaign. You are choosing not to complete it. And this requirement was known months ago, long before release.

You also don’t have to use your battle pass on season 1.

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Blizzard has no control over what statements a publication puts in their review of one of Blizzard’s games.

Cry a river.

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Spoken like someone who has the asinine trait of wanting to debate while possessing pathetic reading comprehension skills.

If you weren’t focused on trying to be a white knight troll, you would see that my statement was referring specifically to blizzard own product review page where you purchase the product. I was not referring to a 3rd party vendor but blizzards own webpage. Specifically on blizzards page, it gives a breakdown of what comes attached to each editions. At the bottom of the page are asterisks associated with each editions, conditions that are associated with certain perks. Nowhere on the page does it indicate you need to complete the campaign to utilize the benefits I described earlier.

Now if the battle pass and accelerated pass transfer over to a new season, that will help a bit, but neglecting this information on their product page is bad business, with a very likely chance of fraud claims being submitted due to required conditions being neglected on their product placement page.

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Where are you getting your info that you must complete the campaign before you can work on the battle pass? This would be news to me and I don’t believe you are correct.

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How is the game too hard??? Are you thaaaaaat weeeeeak!!! You should probably quit!

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He is not correct. He is confusing the season journey and the battlepass. There are parts of the season journey that require the campaign to be completed.

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No offense, but if you can’t beat the campaign on Tier 1 then you are the issue. Not the game. There are a lot of people playing D4 that have never played an ARPG before, and many of them have no clue what they are doing. They put together builds that make absolutely no sense and then give up because they can’t progress.

A friend of mine tried D4 and was complaining to me that his character was barely doing any damage when fighting. When I looked at his build he had only put points into the basic skills not realizing there were more skills further down the skill tree :man_facepalming:. Now he is doing much better.

I notice many complainers tend to be 1 posters like the op. I would be willing to bet many of them are as clueless as my friend was at how to play the game.

As far as seasons go, you don’t need to complete the campaign to make a seasonal character. You need to complete the campaign in order to get access to the seasonal mechanic, which are the malignant hearts.

The seasonal journey in D4 is different than it was in D3. You don’t have to complete every single objective in order to unlock all the rewards. Kinda like how you don’t have to complete every side quest and dungeon in order to complete renown in each zone.

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If I can mimic, How I ran the COD battle pass for years, then I will be happy. Do they provide enough points each season to pay for the next?

As for the hate. I am a single dad, grew tired of the shenanigans that are tied to ALL sports games, these so called Fantasy Teams. I am sick of seeing Night Train Lane at CB every year, game developers are typically copy cat lazy folks.

This game is not unique in any sense. But in all honesty, how can one really push the envelope here? Game is fun, game is a good release, when the past two years, we been riddled with garbabe.

I enjoy D4, and I choose the most painful character class to begin with on purpose, the Druid. I am strictly Lightning, Human Form, and I am near Level 95, I melt everything. So if anything, the game can get repetitive, a bit boring.

THEIR key aspect here, needs to be HOW TO CONNECT the community better, maybe a Chat System like POE in Certain Towns, a Trade Post for us, Lists…

If a Developer actually reads this and wants a great idea for us all to engage: We need more PVP but in the sense of teams… Maybe create a team of 8 and all them to roam, until they are all dead… longer they stay alive, the longer the reward they get, but you die, that is it.

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It’s so funny that people always feel the need to mention their jobs or kids as though it makes your complaints valid.

It doesn’t. No one cares.

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Wait I’m confused. So you’re saying you can still play season 1, you just can’t skip the campaign? If so, why are the developers saying you need to complete the campaign to start the battle pass? I believe they said that during a dev update YouTube video.

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The requirement for Season 1 per the Blizzard website is:

"To participate in Seasons, a new character must be made on the Seasonal Realm. You do not need to purchase a Battle Pass or any add-ons to play the Seasonal content, but you must have completed the campaign on either the Eternal or Seasonal Realm with at least one character. Once you have completed the Campaign, any Seasonal character will start the game with:

** The option to skip the Campaign.**
** Your Mount available immediately.**
** All previously discovered Altars of Lilith unlocked, and the corresponding Renown for them.**
** All previously discovered areas of the map revealed, and the corresponding renown for them."**

Just FYI everyone.

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Yes you can if you have beat the campaign already. With the only caveat is hardcore must beat the campaign on hard core to skip and normal has to beat the campaign on normal to skilp

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This is super helpful. The dev youtube videos continue to give the impression that you need to complete the game to access seasons. As long as those that paid for the deluxe and ultimate editions aren’t locked out of the content they purchased via campaign completion, (aka the battlepass) I’m good. I’ll probably give Rogues a try.

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I imagine even less people care about your useless complaint frankly.

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Oh dear… my friend did the same thing. Only… he knew he had the points. He just wanted to “save them”.

They are allocated now and he’s having so much more fun.

I’m really disappointed that Archon isn’t an Ultimate Ability for the Sorcerer… but I’m glad that I didn’t “refuse to play until Blizzard added it”.

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Well fortunately my criticism isn’t tied to that. The criticism that many have level at the game is that blizzard has advertised the game by saying any build would be viable for completing content. That means if you want to be a werewolf druid, werebear druid, earth druid, lightning druid, companion druid, etc, all of those should be viable for content completion. And as someone who plays a companion druid, that’s clearly not the case as the companions do not do enough damage to truly help in boss fights.

So there’s a difference in not utilizing your points or only putting your points in basic skills, versus attempting to specialize in a certain area such as werewolf or werebear because that’s how you imagine your character and are unable to do so.

I refuse to respond to anyone that uses ablism (which is one of the largest toxic problems of the gaming community) to deflect clear difficulty issues within the game.
But I’m hoping that you understand that if Blizzard advertises the products by saying “all builds should be viable.” They should be held to their word.

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Wait - we’re supposed to use them?

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Take it he played D2 years ago before synergies were added. It was painful to level an orb sorc. in those days. No respec, only a handful of viable builds.

If I remember correctly you had orb/ts, orb/hydra or nova sorc.

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OK… but what makes you say they’re “not”?

Just because you haven’t personally hit Level 100 and can’t take on Level 50 Nightmare Dungeons?

I love Sorcerer and the Internet tells me that “Ice Shards” is the way to go… but I’m still successful playing the way I want to play as a Pyromancer.

You have the tools to make your build effective.

You’re just not doing that effectively.

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