I dont understand what is the logic behind having the game be so much worse for SOLO players as ARPG genre? I am all up for wanting to play with friends but why are we FORCED to join party or we miss on so much loot? Why doesnt everyone in party have to pay the mat cost or why dont we get SSF and get lower costs that way for solo players
Uber Bosses - If you dont join rotation you are literally griefing yourself as you get 4 times more loot that way… Everyone saying how easy it is to get Mythic items ofc if you can do 4 times more Bosses if you simply join party…
Now the same thing is happening with Infernal Hordes - not only that you basicly get unlimited deaths as a party since you can ress each other between each wave. you also are able to spawn multiple events at same time so on averange run you get around 50-100% more Aether
Why would I do 10 runs of Pits if I can just join 3 other ppl and we can just easily do T7 Infernal Hordes as we cant ever waste all 2 REVIVE and get 500+ Nethalion Shards that way? This desing is complete trash
EDIT: Guess I could word it better “Punished for playing SOLO rather then being forced to play in GROUP”
EDIT2: If you want to play in party why do u you need incetive or favored rewards to do so? Shouldnt you play in party cuz you want to play with other ppl not cuz it gets you better rewards??
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Your not forced into anything. Its just more efficient to play in a group as all diablo games have been with playing online.
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Probably only going to get worse with the expansions only endgame feature being coop dungeons
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Like I said with PARTY you have unlimited deaths basicly while SOLO you die 2 times and its end how is that not being forced? Simply counting Death as Revive would stop this cheese strategy…
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You can still play, you can still kill mobs, you can still collect loot 
However if you arnt good, gear is bad or underleveled your party can carry you.
Play hardcore, you wont have this issue.
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I don’t feel forced to group. Mostly I play solo. If I have a friend playing then I will play with him. That said, everyone should have to pay materials that wants to kill boss. I don’t understand how this simple thing isn’t changed. It’s like blizzard doesn’t like using the obvious answer.
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No I would still get way less loot even if I played Hardcore… I understand some ppl want to be carried and I am fine with that, What I dont understand is getting 2-4 times more loot if you simply play as party
Like I said its more efficient to be in a group but its a choice.
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yeah great desing for ARPG…
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Most arpg as like that. D4 does not offer an offline mode so there is no /player8
Granted they said many, many time before and after the game released there would be no offline mode.
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I’ve been playing solo for the past 2 seasons and been doing just fine. You’re not forced to group you’re choosing to group.
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I agree. I play solo too, but if I did join a group for these I would expect everyone to have to use the same materials. Mooching shouldn’t be allowed.
Having said that, no one is forced to group at all in this game except legions and Wb. And even those can be soloed once your character is powerful enough.
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This season is the multiplayer “lube” season before they shove the raids all the way in
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You arent being forced, I think you are using that word incorrectly. In some cases it is more efficient but you arent forced. Just play to have fun, it isnt a race.
we dont have “forced” here, its not a George Lucas game.
Honestly If ppl think that Infernal Hordes like this aint problem I guess D4 rly isnt a game for me,
Its literally way to RMT heaven. Where you just enter and die get exp/gold/mats at rate 2x then if you actually play the mode ALONE
This is the main reason im skipping this season and just gonna play PoE instead.
I like that PoE respect the time of solo players when it comes to bossing.
All of my friends quit D4 like 1 week into season 1 and never came back, and i cba to spam discord, add people to bnet and then remove them after, again and again and again. And the feeling of playing the “wrong” way… just nah i’d rather not play.
Hope they can fix this at some point.
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Just ask for help in trade chat. Usually someone is going to be there and interested in helping others.
Hmm… I don’t follow. How are you forced? I’ve been playing solo and enjoying things just fine. Was pleasantly surprised to see sorc has got some love in this update.
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Its not about needing help,I did clear T7 Infernal Horde solo, issue is as SOLO player you get like 300-400 Aether you cant even spawn enough events in time to get more and if you die your whole run ends no reward at all, but even in party of 2 you can double this with 4 ppl you can get more and if anyone dies you just ress them when wave timer is gone that revive count has 0 meaning if you play as party…
Basicly Blizzard is saying if you dont party with other ppl not only that the content is gonna be harder for you (which I am fine with), but also you rewards is gonna be way worse (which is issue)
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