D4 has more current players on Steam than any other ARPG

if you think poe2 is going to “decimate” d4, you are delusional

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Yea. No one can decimate D4 as good as Blizz can.

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well tomorrow will be a big suprise if they dont add anything major in the expac show case

beside new character and new zone

it they dont add more gear slots

more levels

new skill trees

set items

the cube

balancing

better dungeons

etc

if its just a character and a zone ill be pretty disappointed

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What exactly am I missing where ARPG players want ARPG games to fail? Why can’t these people enjoy having options and be happy with ANYTHING that furthers the genre?

It’s just weird to me. ARPG is the ONLY genre I have played in my life where the players actively hate OTHER games that try to further the popularity and scope of their chosen game genre.

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Oh I thought we were talking about player numbers. If you would like to discuss player retention I suggest you make your own thread.

Both can be true

Yes, loot reborn is a big hit but ask yourself why was such a drastic and radical required in the first place :thinking: ?

so player retention matters. so 66% player retention and what 10-15mil copies sold outside of steam. ya id say d4 has nothing to worry about from poe2

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Blizz said they sold North of 10 million copies.

Wheres the other 9M+ hiding?

Did they have 9M+ refunds?

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hiding? i play hardcore and see people all the time. where are you hiding?

You see 10M people playing the game?

Guys, no need to argue

Credit where credit’s due - the Loot Reborn was a pure banger

BUT we have to ask ourselves: what went so wrong that such a radical “comeback” was needed

I’m asking an honest question.

According to Blizz over 10M copies sold. Where are they?

So 10M - 30k(17k, whatever) = the number of console players we have.

Is that your story.

bnet is pc…not console

Do you actually think the servers can handle 10M + players

Have you EVER seen anywhere near that number online.

I don’t care which game has more players. I will simply play the better game be it D4, PoE 2 or Titan quest 2.

So far PoE2 seems to be exactly my cup of tea.

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they did june of last year, why wouldnt they now?

a player shard holds 12 players, so i dont think anyone has seen 10mil players in their game lol

I dabbled in Poe 1, will try Poe 2. Loved TQ back in the day.