D4 Devs must learn of CEO of Larian

Just hear what Swen Vincke says on TGA. Make a game that is fun and revenue will come naturally.

Make decision in favor of your users and do a entertain game. Watching market stocks or indulge investors.

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Make a game with insane shop prices and revenue will come from the super simps of the franchise and that’ll be enough revenue to keep the game going at the bare minimum.

You all act like blizzard is dumb and you think they care about losing players. They only care about losing the ones spending the big money, nothing else. And they know that the majority of the longtime Diablo franchise fans will spend spend spend.

Why put effort into everything when they can do what they are doing now, and still make absolute bank? Its business 101.

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Had an old boss who called this ā€œstepping over a dollar to make a dimeā€. Basically going for easier, but smaller, profit over higher long term profit that requires more work. It’s frighteningly common in the corporate world.

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No, that would’ve been a fair guess before… but only 13% of revenue in the 1st year came from the shop. Idk how that breaks down… is it mostly the paid Battle Pass?

Either way, it’s 13% or much much less. Next: look at what they did to Eternal. That’s where many of the whales roost. (Roost? Float?)

Point is, it’s much likelier they rely on the $5/season Battle Pass for most of their ā€œextraā€ revenue, which is tied to as many non-whales as possible investing into each season… and rely way more on selling retail licenses. IMO they’re targeting the masses.

It would explain some deficiencies (including doing Eternal dirty), and this model counts on continually attracting new players (who’re looking for the smallest learning curve, that they can play without paying much attention). This also explains SB (expac sales is an important metric for revenue ā€œsuccessā€).

Cosmetics-leaning revenue comes in 2 forms IMO: gacha or esports games (player is ā€œstuckā€ or ā€œneeds treatmentā€); and support-us-if-you-think-we-earned-it games. :laughing: D4 is clearly a ā€œyou’re here because it’s accessible… want to see some skins?ā€ game.

Yea, that is right, there is no dispute about that statement. But, just so you are aware, in case if you somehow aren’t…

ā€œfunā€ is subjective. …

Just because the game is not fun for you, does not make it not fun for me.

The Problem IS Not If revenue comes.

IT IS Werther you can buy a Ferrari with IT or and Island with 100 Sportscars on IT.

Blizz makes enough Cash with D4. Even without bp. But IT IS never enough.

Larian? Well I have in mind a different CEO he could copy…

Can’t do that when a huge corporation runs every aspect of your company. Blizzard will keep doing what they are doing now.

You like crappy games made for children. Congrats.

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ABK likes to make billion dollar IPs then abandon them when they aren’t producing cash as well anymore. All they really have is Call of Duty, WoW, and Candy Crush as their stable IPs.

It’s those 3 that will receive the most attention cause they’re the lifeline of the company.

Not sure how great it is going for CoD to be honest, I left it long ago (when aimbots took control) but with every new ā€œgameā€ (it is mostly reskin at this point, something like fifa) they are more and more like some fortnight clon.

Atm with the vast array of skins in the Warzone shop (that likely sell big time), the success of CoD Black Ops 6, and Zombies being fairly good they’re likely doing very well. Also aimbot and cheating is a very difficult thing to counter for any company.

Ah ok thx for info not following news about it at all… well to bad :smiley:

I am talking about integrated aimbot from developers, you know controler. That is what killed game for me. Same as Apex Legends.

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Oh yeah I think aim assist is only a thing cause it’s a bit harder to aim compared to kbm controls.

I’m almost hesitant to post this since i can’t find any of the posts where i have said similar things before…

I think everyone in this thread who is stating who they think the game is targeted to is right - sort of… To me it seems clear that they are on a grail quest. In the world before WOW most RPG games were either really intense and complex and pressed all the right buttons for a small group of super dedicated players, or they were easy and accessible for many people.

WoW came along and changed all that. It was the first massively commercially successful MMORPG and offered content for both hardcore gamers and people who weren’t familiar with the genre and needed the water to be just right to dip a toe in…

It seems obvious to me that they are looking to replicate this with Diablo. I know plenty of people on here will say ā€œThey don’t listenā€ or ā€œThey don’t careā€ but to me that is a rather ignorant assessment. They are most certainly listening, (likely ingesting everything anyone posts about the game on these forums or anywhere else that is digital and publicly accessible into a big data environment and dissecting it with AI tools) and they most certainly do care about what needs to be done to make the game have super broad appeal to people seeking very different things.

This is not easy and is likely to be a somewhat bumpy journey. I for one want to see them find the grail and i am along for the ride to whatever end :wink:

It used to be true. Without any support it is harder with controler but at this point controler aimassist is like aimbot. They overtunned it by much.

You can find proplayers who support this and after all that is reasson why they all using controler.

Sure better player with mk will still beat noob controler but it you would take same skill lvl player mk will lost.

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I mean you do too, as you clearly play d4.

That you even feel the need to comment like this. Imagine just letting people enjoy what they enjoy. The people that dont enjoy d4 got quite a few options to pick a game that they do like. Good time to be alive.

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Maybe the ā€œmustā€ is too strong, ā€˜should’ could be better. BG3 is the game a I play now after 27 years of Diablo, why? - The decision came after my Necro found two-handed sword in D4 and didn’t know hot to swing with it.

While it may be true, in practice it’s about what revenue actually transfers.

In manufacturing some of us older workers tell them all the time, build quality and sales numbers will go up. However……

The problem is we lower the bar. Oh you have a defect you don’t want to scrap? We can change it sell it in a lower tier and come out a head. You still remain your position because customers are getting a good deal and settling for a lower profit/quality margin piece.

But the money still transfers. It’s all about money.

Blizzard is running on the name. It’s obvious the quality is dropping. The other games will pick up that shelf space so to speak, but it isn’t going to be soon. Give it a few years and blizzard current mindset… you may see a shift and new king.

Older gamers have to move on from nostalgia. Blizzard has a good hold where people like me will buy d5 when it comes out, knowing full well the history and bad of the company hoping for a change and better experience from the last. But if there’s a better alternative…. Massively better.

Younger generations may not have that so called loyalty as they may not have played Diablo or d2. They may not have that same thinking. Likewise they don’t have the hardship of quitting. It’s more this is crap move on without much thought.

Anyways it’s always about the money.

Oh he mic dropped on everyone at the game awards.

BG3 is superior to anything blizzard has produced in the last decade. He knows it is because happy developers give a damn about the product.