The only uber boss that is even challenging is uber Lilith (made easy with certain meta build if you copy one), which is a pretty fun fight but the rewards are lackluster. To do the only uber bosses with any sort of reward worthwhile you have to waste your time farming the mats off bosses that are not as good with no good drops. All the endgame systems in d4 are boring and only half-done. Helltides cant possibly be considered endgame, really?
Have you ever run out of materials? How much have you played D4?
Helltide in the end is something you need to do to have resources.
I played at launch/s1 for a few days and quite a bit in season 4 to test the new stuff. nearly all I did in d4 was helltide from 1-100 (with a few NMD) and never needed to run it again outside lvling. After you lvl ur glyphs you basically live inside the pit (greater rift) with nothing else to do except the occasional boss run.
In other words, you havenât played too much.
Whispers and Helltide are necessary to recover materials you spend for Masterworking.
NMD: Yes, it is not necessary. Definitely not part of the end.
Weird, most of my gear was 10/12 or higher and I had 2 characters at 100, never had to return to helltidesâŚperhaps the last 2 masterworks is where you have to return. Doesnât change the fact that the endgame loop is lackluster at best. its a good start, but it needs improvement
Fair enough. But I would not hold your breath on that. I donât know if you know but D3 is by and far the best selling in the franchise. It has sold more than all the others combined. Now, I had a great time playing D1 and D2 back in the day but imho, they did not age well. And last I checked D2R was like a ghost town. About a month ago I was bored and jumped onto D3 for S31 and I had no problems finding people to play with and I had a lot of fun for several weeks. I think D4 is a good game atm with a lot of potential.
I am not a white knight by any stretch. I was very vocal for a long time as I was not happy with the direction this game was going. Vocal enough that I earned a few forum vacations lol. But with the PTR, I saw some positive changes and a new direction. Does this mean that the work is done, hardly. Should a lot have been there from the start, for sure. But it is what it is. Personally, I am hopeful once again. Here is hoping that is not misplaced. But I am excited to see what VoH holds for us.
With that we can agree. I have never said it is perfect.
Just because one thing is better than another doesnât mean that the best is perfect and the worst is garbage⌠I think you have to learn not to see things in black and white.
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Ya Iâve seen that a few times,it is there forum what can you do. Carry on i guess?
only reason i donât play d2 any more is b/c you have to use a bot(s) and or buy off rmt sites to get nice stuff: i certainly never find much decent loot playing legit cus the drop rates are adjusted to account for dupers and botters. if there was no rampant cheating, i would only play d2. meh.
D2R is still king. Blizzard is refusing to update the game people enjoy.
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Out of blizzard games I agree. I would say I prefer both last epoch and poe (which is by far the best) out of all. Poe 2 is looking very promising as well.
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The rampant botting and duping in D2 and yes D2R as well make it hard for me to really say they are good games because playing those games we do benefit heavily from the botting and duping unless playing SSF. The moment you enter the trade economy of those games you are only able to trade up for good gear because of the fact that the good gear is heavily devalued by the duping and botting.
Take away the bots and dupes, you might only see 10 people hitting 99 in a ladder season, only a handful of people would be running ebotd or enigma. Instead we have everyone getting all the best runewords within 2-3 weeks of a new ladder. That is not the intended design of the game and unless you play single player you have not experienced the real game.
That said, I did love playing D2 as a kid and I still do enjoy the game but this smells like a âyou think you do but you donâtâ moment.
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I always play ssf, so the rmt/botting doesnât really have an impact on my gameplay. But last time I logged into d4 I think i saw 4-5 bots selling gold before one personâs item in the trade chat, so I think its also a problem in D4, no?
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D4 trade systems (lack of) and the gold selling certainly are problems that need to be addressed. The gold selling I wouldnât say is as detrimental to the average players experience as the bots and dupes in D2 however.
The funny thing is I think if blizz added better support for in game trading, more people would engage in trading and thus not feel any need to buy gold. Instead we have to go to 3rd party sites or discord servers to trade and its just a hassle but Iâm getting off topic lol
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When you build an economy but donât give the players a way to set prices in game, then you build the economy around bots. Blizzard knew what they were doing with the crafting. They need the pay to win crowd, the 12 year old kids wallets, and the forced labor to buy the game.
Blizzard games always have a problem with botting. They have since Warden and Rust Storm were made unusable because they read contents on the computer when checking to see if youâre botting.
Yay for privacy I guess?
Idk what I wouldnât give for a D2 with no stamina bar and no potion spam. Especially the potion system, itâs an absolutely massive barrier of entrance for the vast majority of players. At the very least making them with refillable charges, eliminating inventory space issues would be godsend.
Yes, there are a few things in d2 that could be better, but its amazing that after 20+ years of diablo development d2 is still the best ARPG they could produce. Its really quite sad. I donât necessarily want d4 to be exactly like d2, but the current state of the game to be considering a paid expansion is just silly. Especially when there are other arpgs like last epoch, poe and poe 2.
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Potions, inventory Tetris, pathing of spells, scrolls of identity/portal, boring combat, lackluster boss fights, just to name a few things in D2 that didnât age wellâŚPeople have serious blinders on when it comes to that game, and theyâd be better off playing it instead of whining on D4 that itâs not a carbon copy.
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Eh. At least there was RP in that game. No RP allowed now I suppose because, reasons.
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