Average cost of a round of golf $36 = 4 hours of enjoyment
Average cost of 3 movies $12 each = $36 = 6 hours of enjoyment
Average cost of a video game = $70 = 100+ hours of enjoyment
Can we stop complaining please…don’t pay and play if you don’t like the price.
Only true when you do not play golf in the movietheater while they show Blizz cinematics.
the average cost changers per user.
100+ hours of enjoyment for a video game is a bit of a shortcut. The difference is huge from game to game. There are full priced AAA games finished in 10h max with almost no replay value and you can keep playing for 100s of hours in a RPG.
Sometime complaining is justified. I will not for D4.
I wont buy the expansion because i dont like the new class. I would buy if it was Crusader or Paladin
Was this supposed to convince people upset about the price that they shouldn’t be upset about the price? First time on the internet?
Yo, dollar guy from a first world country…
Now try that in BRL (Real) that costs 5x more than your currency with a cost of living that is double your country.
Or in Lira.
Or in Pesos.
don’t forget you gotta pay for the PC and electricity :v .
Gaming is one of the cheapest hobby, true.
Yet I dont mind if someone share their feelings about pricing.
We talking here about full priced game, with yearly paid DLC, with BP and lots of MTX.
for halfbaked product.
They don´t reflect purchase power (don´t know proper english term) of specific country.
100e in my countery is really something different than 100e in Germany.
I have two nitpicks about this argument:
I’m not convinced you get “100+ hours” out of the “average” game. Sure, some (like Civilization) can go for 1000+ hours easily, but IMO there are many more that are in the lower range: ~20 hours or less, and not much point replaying them…
Granted, those tend to be a bit cheaper, and 20h is still a lot more than for other entertainment options.
I dislike thinking of entertainment in terms of time per $, because I don’t want my games to be optimized for time spent.
There are some games where I literally spend more time in loading screens than actually playing; there are some games with long unskippable cutscenes that you have to go through again if you don’t clear the level; there are turn based RPGs where every single action plays an animation that takes forever…
Things like that make playing through those games take longer, but without giving me more value.
It’s about the quality of the entertainment, not only the quantity.
All that said, I do enjoy gaming more than movies or bowling or what have you (in average), so it does tend to be a better value proposition, for me.
thats why i say the best value of any game or “fun” activity is Diablo 3. I got it for that 14.99 on playstation super sale and I put easy over 2,000 hours into that game. I havent played it the last 2 season but I have dumped so much time into that game.
In d4, I feel I got my money’s worth of fun. This season and s2 were by far the most entertaining for me. Not sure whats going to happen when the xpac goes live. I havent bought it yet and if i do buy it, it will be on playstation so i can double dip (get d4 on my ps5). I’ll be at least a hold out until i see what s5 brings (if its a turd season which i am expecting, and the xpac basically locks you out for not doing a helltide/dungeon/new uber boss) I might just move to another game and he happy of the time I did play.
Yes. If the consumer does not like the pricing then they should reject them. Not just for games, but for all things. But there will always be “spenders” vs “savers” so it’s pointless complaining about it. People will do what they want to do 
LOL! What courses are you playing? The average cost for a round of golf is much much higher than that almost everywhere. In fact you can buy the game for less than the average round of golf and yes I get your point. Video games are the cheapest thing I do for entertainment by far.
Can we stop with pointless comparisons to justify game prices?
I don’t play golf.
X-Men (2000) was the last time I went to a movie theatre.
I also make my own coffee, don’t buy it daily from Starbucks (I see this comparison often, not that you mentioned it).
etc. to any other comparison.
A lot of games ARE expensive for what you are getting (content and quality wise), more so considering Indies for the past couple of years have been absolutely killing it in price and quality.
I am having a lot of fun with Diablo 4 now. I refunded my pre-order during Server slam, so I ended up saving 50%, but in total D4 with the expansion has cost me a little of $200CAD.
Compared to some games I own, that’s outrageous, but compared to others it’s cheap. It will depend on the quality of the DLC.
Compared to any other ARPG I own or have played, it’s already the most expensive.
Even board games cost $50 or more these days.
I guess you can buy a cheap chess set for much less and get endless hours of entertainment, if you love chess, so not every game is expensive, but yeah, I see your point.
The cost depends entirely on the circumstances and attitudes of each individual. 'Stop being poor!" is so common on the forums, after all a round of golf down at the club is only…
Is it though? The price for videogames has only gone up about $10 since the 1980s, and they have way more replay value than they used to. Movies, for instance, used to cost me like $5 for a ticket and $5 for popcorn in the late 80s and into the 90s, now it’s triple that. Renting a new release movie is $20 to stream.
I think gamers have it good compared to other hobbies.
Your whole argument turned into adult talk from Charlie Brown.
The issue is not paying for a game.
The issue is paying full price for games, that come out broken. We can go over many examples. D4 was very nice at launch. What followed, has not been seen maybe ever in gaming history. They are trying to save this game.
Their investment is MOSTLY in the store, they know the shelf life for D4 is limited, the POE2 Drum is beating and many are following that beat…
The other issue is the model games take.
For example all sports games. They create a 70 roster update every year, then turn on the marketing ploys to get you to buy packs, but cards. No game innovation, no competition.
Game Pass… should not be in this game and a game like 2k. The store again is the focus of D4, they know in a year, this game…
will be a ghost town.
They failed in hooking the D2 crowd.
The D2 crowd failed to make D2R a hit. Y’all think way too highly of yourselves.
if you buy TLOU2 you don’t have to pay that much for golf.