The gap between level 75 Varshan and level 200 tortmented Varshan is silly. You don’t even have to be level 100 to kill Varshan, but many players will never kill the tortmented version.
Can we get a middle tier level of the uber bosses, make a level 150 version of all of them? Call it ‘Tortured’ or something? This would allow a progression Normal → Tortured (150) → Tormented (200). This also help people learn mechanics, since the normal versions you ignore the mechanics and the 200 versions they one shot you (until you are geared really well). There is no transition.
I get that once people are geared, have gotten their build optimized that they are no longer one shot and the tormented versions are within reach. However, there is a massive gap between killing Zir or Varshan as you are leveling and the tormented versions of them. A sense or progression would be nice.
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“will never kill Tormented”… Baahahahahahaa. Dude everyone can kill them by now. You should be good to kill them pretty easily, even at 4/12 you can do it. Learn how to play the game. You don’t get one shot, you have to learn the mechanics that give you a stacking debuff, if you fail those mechanics, after 3-4 stacks on most, you are 1 shot
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I wish they’d just make them all 100 and 200.
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Calm down Billy. Sure, I have solo’d tormented duriel, zir, and varshan, but that isn’t the point. The point is the gap between the level 75 version and the level 200 version, there is no progression. I went from not being able to get past 90% to being able to solo them. Additionally, not everyone plays the same amounts, my wife for example can’t do the tormented version, she simply doesn’t play as much. Hence, the suggestion for a middle version as a form of progression.
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Not everyone uses cookie cutter planned builds.
I’ve made 5 level 100 characters, all builds you wont find on the front page off build guides, i actually tried to make something new.
What do you know…
only 1 of my characters are able to kill level 200 ubers, and its the nado barb, imagine that.
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I’ve suggested this in other threads. I went so far as to boost their levels to 135 up to 150 depending on the boss. They would cost twice the amount of materials, and they would drop 3x the loot.
Just a thought though.
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Same. Maybe keep them 75 in wt2 or 3 but once wt4 they should be 100 and 200. Maybe even 150 and 200.
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I play nerfed to hell HoTa. And maybe a couple hours a day. It’s not hard man
You can have a lvl 150 capped tormented boss, when his loot is capped at 1GA ^^
I normally don’t say things like this, but this has got to be the dumbest comment in the entire thread given you can get 3GA items out in the open in WT4. I know, because my FO sorc’s wand is 3GA (and with all three stats being the most desirable for the build). Tying number of GA procs to which kind of content you are doing would undo the current system and be even more anti-progression since the entire point of getting these items is to be able to then do harder content.
Not everyone has a good understanding of mechanics or is capable of theory crafting a viable build. Help people instead of rudiculing them.
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TheTias is right.
Was dump.
But was meant to be dump and not to take seriously.
I really do not care. Give everyone his 3GA lewt.
But don’t be sad if there is nothing left to chase.
Have you masterworked all your gear? This seems to be the requirement. Also tried and failed, as soon as I got lvl 100
The point isn’t about whether or not I can do it or you can do it. It’s about the progression. Leveling is about progression. Paragon is about progression. Gear ilevel is about progression. The pit is about progression. AARPG’s are built around it.
The point is that there is no progression in the uber bosses. You have a level 75 version that is a joke and a level 200 version that is for made for when your character is at the pinnacle of their power, with nothing in between.
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Not true.
At the pinnacle each uber boss beside lilith is a 5-10 second fight.
And if it takes 45 seconds, is that not good enough?
Is this the thread asking for a 300 lvl version because level 75 can be 2 shots before level 100 and level 200 after 2 weeks is the same story… Yes, I would appreciate a 300-level version where you don’t fall asleep while killing those loots pinata.
If you’re half-decent at this game the normal version should be 150 and tormented should be 300.
Which class and build are you using?
Necro, bard, rogue and druid the only class I don’t play because is boring as hell is Sorc.
I can see why you think Uber bosses are too easy. You don’t even play the weakest class with 0 damage. More fun doing actual damage I guess.
Wish they would just balance the game and align the content properly and not just throw xHP, xDmg to the mobs to make “difficulty”
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