Buying mats on RMT sites is cheating!

Buying materials you did not acquire in game by playing is cheating. Full stop! Buying stacks of Boss Mats, Gems and gold on RMT sites is cheating. The way to stop this is putting in the ability to transmute existing materials in game or buy the materials in game with gold or other material. Lets not forget about how getting to T4 was supposed to be aspirational. Well it isnt when a player hunkers by the doorway and someone else does it for them lol! The player should have to do it themselves just like in D3. No cowering in a doorway!! Finally, Exp and glyph levels should be severely nerfed if not within 4 levels of another player when running. This is why people are rocketing to the endgame to fast and then whining lol! This is the question. Do you want D4 to be a game and have aspirational goals. Or a game where people nonstop dupe, cheat and cheese the game out of existence. Your choice. Hope to see this topic brought up at the Campfire Chat. What say you!

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RMT will always be in every online game.
Stop all trade, make everything BoA and there will be people selling Pit runs or Boss clears.
This is an impossible task for developers and they can only do so much before the RMTers adjust.

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Yeah but honestly id love boss mats in the materials tab. I want the inventory space. I aquire way more then a reasonable person would burn through.

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Gonna need proof of this. Also players are bringing up various concerns about the game, regardless of RMT going on. D2 had the exact same issues mind you, probably still does today, I just don’t play it.

Now they could slow down RMT for sure, but they’d never stop it as Hilio pointed out. If it’s an online game and you can sell items or services for money, there will always be a market for it. Never underestimate laziness and expendable income.

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You mentioned ‘doorway’ several times in your manifesto. I can’t work out the meaning or metaphor you are going for. Could you expound on this please?

I agree that trading should be severely limited. Enact D3 trading rules. Maybe only allow trading within a clan. I personally would feel ashamed to pay to win. It cheapens whatever you might accomplish.

I do not have a problem with people getting carried by better players however. My observation is that people who need to be carried rarely ever achieve much in the game. Sometimes a better player will change classes and get carried for a short period of time until they catch up with the other people in their group but most of the time a person who is standing in the doorway is standing there all season long. How is that fun? I kind of feel sorry for them.

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It can be controlled and not let run rampant and get increasingly worse every season. Standing back and doing nothing because you cannot eliminate something is not the answer. D3 keeps it controlled quite well.

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I listed things they could do.

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I don’t personally care, but punishing everyone due to some bad actors in a game that has no competition is a bad call.

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Don’t worry they won’t do it. They want to encourage multiplayer.

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So because you don’t want to offend or upset anyone a huge problem should be ignored?

And BTW, it is much more than a few bad actors. This is being widely abused.

There is no mega corporation on the planet that will allow their intellectual property be stolen and sold to the highest bidder for someone else’s profit and not get anything out of it. Not one. They will diversify a revenue stream in a heartbeat whether it is above board or not.

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They didn’t try anything and they are all out of ideas.

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I never said that. Keep your words out of my mouth. I responded to a specific suggestion not the problem as a whole. Only an idiot would be unable to see that.

I don’t doubt you, but neither of us have any way of knowing. Lying to “prove” your point completely invalidates your argument.

False equivalency. This is not hurting Blizzard’s bottom line directly; in fact it requires people to purchase the game to farm gear to sell. If Blizzard were selling gear themselves, you would have a point. Is it hurting their bottom line indirectly i.e. are people that buy gear less likely to also buy cosmetics? I couldn’t say, and neither could you. Plenty of corporations employ loss leaders to generate profit. Consider this that, for a sec.

If you can’t think logically through something this simple, I implore you not to waste the server bytes generating a useless comment.

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Who is being ‘cheated’? Are you missing out on a trophy or something because someone else bought mats on a third party site? Is their purchase holding you back? Affecting your gameplay? If so, how, exactly?

D4 isn’t competitive, so where is the cheating? I would argue the only one being cheated is the purchaser - they are cheating themselves out of the satisfaction of accomplishing things for themselves.

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They mean people stand by the entrance and someone else clears the content for you. Doorway was literal here.

Why would someone that has to work for a living care that other people get free money. I just don’t get it. :clown_face:

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I would say anyone who uses trade could be considered cheated. This would be a result of price inflation due to RMT.

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:roll_eyes: That comment makes about as much damn sense as hubcaps on a tractor, bob. Real life situations hardly compare with a video game.

Someone got some free money - did that take any money out of your pocket?

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Someone could argue that money was “taken from their pocket” via taxes in order to give some undeserving free-loader some “free money.”

I wouldn’t make that argument, but someone might, though why they’d make it in regards to a video game is entirely beyond me. OTOH, I can’t remember the last time “bob” wrote anything worth my time, so there’s that.

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I usually gloss over the cranky little troll’s comments, but he replied to me, so…

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