Pretty simple requests that should be the BARE MINIMUM VIABLE PRODUCT for any modern game. WoW Dragonflight gets this right. I can save gearsets and talent builds… share them, import them. I can respec them all for free. I get to actually experiment with builds in WoW.
Meanwhile in Diablo 4 the 9.3 million gold respec cost of paragon points alone, with no loadout saving, has me just playing copy pasted build from Maxroll. Not gonna risk hours of gold farming on the CHANCE a different build will be more fun.
How can you design a game in 2023 without this simple quality of life. It blows my mind honestly. Manually right clicking 225 paragon points at 39,000 gold a click? No. Reset all button, FREE.
A polished product would have a save build button that saves my Gear/Skills & Paragon. Then I could freely experiment with other builds and that is where the FUN begins. There is nothing fun about being locked into a meta build and fearing changing anything in case you brick your character, and become too broke to change back to the meta loadout.
How do you begin to justify such bad design choices? Why even have skills and paragon trees? Why not just give us 5 pre built characters since there is no freedom anyway?
Very frustrated level 85 sorcerer trying to love the game but this lack of freedom to actually PLAY the game is infuriating. Back to WoW Dragonflight for now, since they actually understand Saving, sharing, importing loadouts, free respecs, etc.
Also nerf the ridiculous reroll cost on items when enchanting. You have turned diablo into ANNOYING BUSY WORK. Constantly trying to grind gold (boring) to enchant and respec. Not gonna do it. I will literally just play WoW or Path of Exile 2 when it comes out (I assume their devs will be smart enough to have loot filters, and build loadouts).
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God forbid you run a single dungeon and vendor items to get enough to respec several times…
Gold isn’t difficult to come by.
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Actually you are meant to make a new character with a different build when you have reached high enough level, rather than continuously respeccing the same character. The respec cost reflects this design decision.
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A full clear of the most lucrative dungeons is only ~ 1,000,000 gold FYI. God forbid you do maths. You get like 400k from monsters and 600k from yellows sold to vendor. So that dungeon is only 1/9th of a PARAGON POINT ONLY reset,
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I disagree with the cost being free. It should have a cost, even higher cost, but at least have the loadout option, yes. I did not change my build to pvp, even though I would like a lot, just because there is a useless work needed for changing and rechanging. The cost is ok, should be even higher, but not having the function to change it on the fly is for sure an error.
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That shows no respect for player time and they can shove it. Not gonna waste another 100 hours on an alt because they are literally too stupid to program build loadouts and free respecs lmao.
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Keep the cost of the respecs or I QUIT!! <3 Now we are in a conundrum, will Mr Blizz listen to you or me? /s
A loadout feature would be fine but the cost should stay. Also the cost of the rerolling is fine and as intended. If the cost is getting too high, well tough luck, I actually need to play the game and find an item again. More rewarding then standing for hours there and pressing the button until I get what I want like in D3.
Also you make a pretty good coin running NM dungeons and selling stuff. So yeah, not as hard really to make gold. Currently sitting on 110Mill on Level 100 and that is most likely still on the low end compared to what other people have.
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If your going to quit over a stupid reason like this then do it. Cost to respect is minimal and loadouts would be nice but threatening to quit over it is being a complete nancy.
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You do realize that before the game came out they said it would be expensive to respec at the highest levels and they wanted your choices to matter, right? In any case, if a little video game is causing you this much mental anguish you should probably find something you like.
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Bye. Trying to issue a ultimatum isn’t going to work. Even if they did down the road it’ll be more than 6 months. If you actually think they will come in today and make a change because some random forum poster said or else then I suggest you go back to WoW.
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This is not wow, Making dumb decisions should have punishment. In POE at 80 you start losing bars of XP when you die. Respecs are gold sinks youll have plenty as you farm for uniques you need,
That said there should be a respec all in Paragon Boards. And again This is and will never be wow. WOW isnt even WOW anymore lol.
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Yeah and Blizzard said they wanted covenants to be a meaningful choice in Shadowlands, look how that panned out. Lost more than 60% of the player base. People like Dratnos told them 9 months before release pairing power with covenant and not being freely changeable would be a problem and it was. Took them until patch 9.2.5 to ADMIT DEFEAT and make covenant swapping without penalty, because they were bleeding so many players to such BAD DESIGN. There is NO MEANINGFUL CHOICE right now. I copy paste a meta build and never get to experiment with anything. That is a LOT LESS CHOICE than If i could sit there and play with builds for free. Dumbest logic ever.
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The guy saying I have 0 Qi is the same who complains and can’t understand a simple text. It’s not expensive you noob, it’s complex and needs a lot of work by clicking, changing gear, storing different type of gear on a chest which not even have a search function.
If you can’t understand this simple text and keep trying to be smart without actually being, you should just leave this game. One less child whining will be nice for this game.
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Losing XP makes PoE an auto pass from me, a game mechanic that not only doesn’t respect your time, it abuses it. The only punishment for failure should be the failure itself and the time it cost.
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Thats your choice. I have no problem making my own builds without resorting to copying what someone else did. Its not hard.
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A fair criticism but like I said, it’s actually a deliberate design decision on their part, not because they are lazy. Think of it as D2’s system but with paragon board and more free respecs, rather than D3’s.
Here’s a snippet from Rhykker about it: Diablo 4 Interview: Creating a Foundation for Seasons & Expansions - YouTube
It’s just a stupid design that will push away more players than it will retain. Blizzard said the average player hasn’t even finished campaign in last campfire talk. The overwhelming majority of players will NOT run a second character I guarentee it. Especially in seasonal play. This is a recipe for disaster like Shadowlands.
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Not if your doin uber bosses lol as there are very few that kill them and or kill them easy. POE has the illusion of choice but its no different then here… +5 +5 +5 +5 YAY keystone +5+5+5+5+5 Ya another keystone… Last Epoch Coppied Drim Dawn but still +5+5+5+5 Keystone lol.
I did quit onece I was exalted with my cov. was my first wow since LK shadowlands was… The tower of no loot sucked as well lol.
The most annoying is to remove some perfect aspect on a part for put another one…