Bone prison still works with Ring of Mendeln and probably Deathspeaker’s Pendant.
Deathspeaker is all about Blood Surge, so no
The neck works on bone prison it counts as minions.
Oh, that weird interaction ^^
I confirmed it still works too lul.
They haven’t said a word about it. It’s not fixed still.
As far as I’m concerned, that means this is a feature of an otherwise mostly useless skill - especially since most skills don’t actually explain their rates.
My guess on why Bone Prison / Mendeln interaction is NOT a bug is because of the fact that Bone Prison comes in SEGMENTS. Each segment coming with it it’s own Lucky Hit %. For example, Bone Splinters has a 17% Lucky Hit Chance, however it fires 3 projectiles. Each projectile rolls that probability individually.
It doesn’t do damage so it shouldn’t proc lucky hit, that’s easy to get.
People tried with only the point for the vulnerable effect and it procs lucky hit without doing any damage.
It’s a bug
vuln effect spams “1” damage on monsters
How hard is it to set bone prison to 0% lucky hit? If it’s a bug that gives 100% lucky hit chance that has to be top of the list of bugs to fix or address
I just wish we could hear an answer from blizzard
It’s not so simple, just because it does no damage doesn’t mean anything. For example, Bone Prison’s enhance effect looks at each individual monster trapped within it and gives X amount of essence to the player.
Doesn’t bone prison count as a few minions, and minion thorns can lucky hit?
Minions cannot proc lucky hit so I don’t think they are technically counted as minions.
They contribute to max essence with the Requiem aspect, though.
Ok, so having tested it, Treble seems to be right.
Without the passive that applies vulnerable it will only proc lucky hits if it explodes using the Bursting Bones aspect.
With the passive that applies vulnerable you don’t need the aspect, it will proc lucky hits constantly. Works with the Hewed Flesh passive as well.
Whether or not the segments count as minions - it doesn’t count towards the required 7 for Mendeln’s as far as I can tell - Bone Prison’s damage counts as your damage and can lucky hit with a high chance/rate.
Also, I thought I should check my facts. Minion thorns does not proc lucky hits as far as I can tell, not sure why the streamer I got that from says it does :-P.
So my question would be does Bone Prison lucky hit beneficial for other items/skills/builds besides Mendeln?
why do you want them to nerf bone prison lol its the only useful minion skill we have. If it didnt’ do lucky hit it would be worthless.
Show me where it says damage is the only thing that procs lucky.
Bone prison does thorns. Thorns procs lucky hit. Sac your minions, take off gear with bursting bone and plunging darkness. Find a single enemy (bears in scosglen) and trap it in bone prison. Watch it hit the prison and take damage. I was seeing three very low numbers pop up (sometimes 1 dmg). So it looks like the thorns is there, but doesn’t get multipliers at all and probably only 30% of base thorns, like minions. Summon minions but keep bone prison aspects unequiped. Put a bear in prison, from what I saw, right after it attacks, it dies instantly. Before attack, it’s taking almost no dmg.
And another reason I think this is the case is the ring itself, why else would it have +thorns? So I am thinking this was an intended synergy. If do the same test with howl of terror gloves though, it doesn’t proc the stun nearly as frequently. I feel like there’s a hidden multiplier on lucky hit effects for different dmg types, at least with non direct dmg like thorns, procs, dots, minions, etc.
edit: You will also see multiple corpses form in bone prison with the first test above. It’s hard to confirm it’s thorns, but I did see mobs outside of the prison but attacking it have corpses spawn under them. I highly doubt prison is ticking lucky hits to mobs outside of it. So it has to be the thorns.
OMG it’s not thorns. It’s when vulnerability is applied.
It works if you have zero thorns.
Yeah I’ve tested it. If you switch the passive to the other one instead of vuln it stops working.
Can we stop with the thorns excuse now please.