Blood rage nerf for barb is way too much

[Irres-1198]

@Jammur-1615

All the people that don’t play barb are jumping for joy. Just wait until they don’t get 3 second Duriel kills and have to actually work for it, then they will realize just how dumb all their complaining was.

This is the saddest rationalization I have ever seen.
Enjoy learning how to play the game yourself.

[ezcyberpup-1169]

@Indian-2161

, but if after the changes minion necro will be overpreforming

Don’t assume this there is more to minion than just inflated numbers test it out first then judge

[Jammur-1615]

@Irres-1198

Enjoy learning how to play the game yourself.

because you are the only one that knows how to play the game. good grief.

[Indian-2161]

I know, I was thinking theoreticaly.

[Irres-1198]

I’m not the one who made an issue of “needing a barb to kill Duriel”.

[ChefRef77-1408]

Barb will still be strong. Take off your BL, Red Furor, your shouts, your tibaults and your GF right now is S3. That’s your S4 damage.

I played my S3 Barb with none of those things and still saw regular hits around the 10 million mark. Yes I realize 10 million is significantly less than 1 Billion, but that amount of damage was never needed to clear anything in the game. Even 10 million feels overkill on everything that’s not an uber boss.

[Shadout-2849]

The truth likely is that Barb was not nerfed enough.
Same for all classes.

@Kosef-1618

Why not pump the other classes up as well.

Because it leads to a broken game.

ALL the classes need to be nerfed. Barb just needed to be nerfed more than the others.

@Jammur-1615

Just wait until they don’t get 3 second Duriel kills and have to actually work for it, then they will realize just how dumb all their complaining was.

That would be one of the goals with massive nerfs, so why would you complain about it?

@Jammur-1615

The barb was the boss specialist and was not out performing in other content.

1. Classes should not be specialists at anything. BUILDs should.
2. A specialist boss killer still should not kill a boss at anywhere close to 1 hit, or 3 seconds.

@Jammur-1615

I didn’t see anyone complaining that sorcs were outperforming in the gauntlet and should be nerfed.

Well, they should.
As before, all classes should be nerfed in different ways.

@Gamma-2578

so no, the barb shouldn’t be the “boss specialist”
NO class should one shot any boss
and no class should be performing better than another one even in a specific area.

It ruins any epicness in a fight if every fight is about one shot.
or any challenge in a game.

especially in a game where you can group up with other : you are a quatuor of players : and just because among them there is one HOTA barb the fight should be a 5sec fight ?
no…

[One-6117]

If barb has the same damage as other classes but has to be melee range then why play barb? Sorc decimated gauntlet and got nothing but buffs.

The devs are banking on barb bleed being a thing, but they do not get the fact that Rend is just a fancy basic skill. It provides no convenience or speed end game.

[Gamma-2578]

@One-6117

If barb has the same damage as other classes but has to be melee range then why play barb? Sorc decimated gauntlet and got nothing but buffs.

this idea doesn’t really work,
let me put it this way : why should barb be tremendously stronger than melee rogue and melee druid despite them being melee ?

also, it’s not really seen on the damage itself but on the tankyness : Sorc is a glass-cannon most of the time (especially with the nerf of the fire passive) : and in a diablo game : tons of damage comes from enemies’s missiles

melee barb, melee druid and melee rogue aren’t. (though melee rogue is more paper-like compared to barb and druid)

Barbarian is far , very far from being the ugly duckling in the group when it outperform every other melee build in every way possible.

and once again : gauntlet is it’s own thing : every class has it’s own LB , and not many people actually care about gauntlet compared to the main game.
and sorc’s glitch that allowed these scores were fixed i heard.

tldr : barb isn’t the only class that can melee

[One-6117]

@Gamma-2578

let me put it this way : why should barb be tremendously stronger than melee rogue and melee druid despite them being melee ?

Because they have the option of not being melee. Being melee for barb is not a choice.

[Gamma-2578]

@One-6117

Because they have the option of not being melee. Being melee for barb is not a choice.

oh right, then tell me, how does a melee build of a druid/rogue etc… (let’s say : werebear or something else) can be something else than melee ?

your argument don’t make any sense.
as soon as you decide to play a melee build : you’ll be melee, even if you are a sorc.
doesn’t have anything to do with the class itself.

even if the class itself can potentially be something else than melee, if your build is purely melee : it’s meaningless to think about what it could be since your build isn’t.

barb also have an option to be something like a bard : should it be considered as such ?

[LavaWisp-16837]

only one of the multipliers barb has? lol

[One-6117]

Innovate, Meta barb builds had WW and hota both core skills. I played tb s2 and I could have easily swapped a skill for a ranged one.

@LavaWisp-16837

only one of the multipliers barb has? lol

Overall barb damage got divided by 10, i did not complain about most stuff. This nerf specifically was too much.

[Gamma-2578]

@One-6117

Innovate, Meta barb builds had WW and hota both core skills. I played tb s2 and I could have easily swapped a skill for a ranged one.

that still don’t make any sense, i asked for werebear druid for example…which is like hota but was 100 times weaker.
once again : it’s not tied to class but to the build you choose to do.

so : no , barb don’t have any reason to be stronger than other melee builds.
they were already way tankier than them in the first place for no reason.
a melee build is a melee build , simple as that.

[LavaWisp-16837]

this nerf wasnt too much. all other builds will do just fine. im sure bleed/rupture will be doing more than any other class and be 1shotting bosses np

[One-6117]

Rend is a hyped up basic skill you cant convince me otherwise.

[Gamma-2578]

@LavaWisp-16837

im sure bleed/rupture will be doing more than any other class and be 1shotting bosses np

if so it should be nerfed too in my opinion.
no build should one shot bosses especially uber

but then again, ptr will tell

[ChefRef77-1408]

The thing that enables sorc to perform at such a high level in the gauntlet got a huge nerf. Infinite teleport is gone just the same as infinite charge is gone from barbarian.

[Kosef-1618]

Well until this change…I’m going to be the most annoying barb possible. Gonna be one-shotting everything. See that group of mobs that you are running to…charege/smash…nope…you don’t. Want to test your build on this world boss…charge/smash…nope…you can’t. Let me have my last month of fun!

[Snow-111352]

As much as I think Barbs need a nerf, I don’t think putting a cap on it is the right answer. They should just keep lowering the percentage until a cap isn’t needed!